Why do some of these experts think Cam can't develop accuracy....

[SuperMan]

those comments had nothing to do with race.

i'm about as white as can be and i think cutler is a hack that can't cut it when it counts. VY is a headcase off the field, but on the field he's shown that he can do more than cutler ever has.

your post was more race baiting than anything anyone else said.

Read previous posts, there both crybabies but last i checked 102 td passes to 42 but yet young's better.

[Mr. Scot]

Lot of things factor into accuracy.

Some are coachable (technique). Others, not so much (hand-eye coordination).

Completion percentage can be a little misleading as a measure because you have to factor in receiver performance. Throw in that certain systems (especially the WCO) tend to inflate those numbers. David Carr once had the best completion percentage in the league, but obviously that didn't make him good.

The best way to really measure accuracy is to look at ball placement pass by pass. In that regard, I don't see Newton ever having Manningesque accuracy. More like a pre-surgery Jake Delhomme. Not great, but good enough to win if other factors are in place.

[MHS831]

Wait and see. Other QBs with Cam's skill set have failed and some have succeeded. No sense getting mad if people do not agree with you. There are points to be made on both sides. It is all a calculated risk, and if you think he is a sure thing, your not smart.

[Marguide]

john elway only completed 47% of his passes his rookie year

dan marino hovered around 60% for his career and had several seasons with 20 or more ints

for rookie qbs, only joe montana set the world on fire

I understand and agree with your post overall, but need to set the record straight regarding Montana's and Marino's rookie years.

In Marino's rookie year, he started 9 games, threw for 2210 yards, 58.4%, 20 td's vs 6 ints, with a QB rating of 96. Montana only started one game and didn't throw 20+ TD's until his 5th season.

Marino's rookie year was almost certainly the best by a rookie all-time.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

Yah I'm not saying Cam will be any of those either.

Rapistburger's rookie season was ok too.

[MHS831]

yeah at first I thought he was you, then I was like...wait.

EDIT: title is double negative and i got your name mixed with his...frick.

I don't have an avatar and if I did, I would not use my QB's mug shot from a college arrest. I did not want Cam, but since he is a Panther, I am not going to try to discredit him in any way.

[mav1234]

I don't know how you can say VY is "more of a winner" than Cutler... yes he may have a better regular season record, but Cutler has at least won a playoff game...

both VY and Cutler bring very different things to a team, but they both can win games given the right situation. Given VY's recent history, I wouldn't want him near my team just yet, but hopefully he can get his feet under him and show that he has managed his previous issues and is back on the road to success.

[Cat'sGrowl]

Cam is going to make both look like second string JV'ers, and that's all that matters to me.

[rayzor]

Read previous posts, there both crybabies but last i checked 102 td passes to 42 but yet young's better.

see...you can disagree with someone without throwing or assuming the race card has been thrown.

at any rate...VY has played in less games, but pretty close to the same amount of 4th quarter comebacks or game winning drives, esp considering the opportunities.

VY has just seemed to be more of a guy you can rely on in clutch situations in the game. cutler seems to blow them more.

[SuperMan]

see...you can disagree with someone without throwing or assuming the race card has been thrown.

at any rate...VY has played in less games, but pretty close to the same amount of 4th quarter comebacks or game winning drives, esp considering the opportunities.

VY has just seemed to be more of a guy you can rely on in clutch situations in the game. cutler seems to blow them more.

Its in context, KT is always posting bs. its a moot point i no longer see his posts :)

[rayzor]

Its in context, KT is always posting bs. its a moot point i no longer see his posts :)

i guess i thats what you are looking for, your going to find it.

whatever...good decision for you to put him on ignore if you assume that every post he makes is about it. in this case ignorance is bliss, i suppose.

moving on....

[rayzor]

I don't know how you can say VY is "more of a winner" than Cutler... yes he may have a better regular season record, but Cutler has at least won a playoff game...

both VY and Cutler bring very different things to a team, but they both can win games given the right situation. Given VY's recent history, I wouldn't want him near my team just yet, but hopefully he can get his feet under him and show that he has managed his previous issues and is back on the road to success.

its more of being clutch and being able to make things happen. cutler has never seemed to be "that guy".

[carpanfan96]

As a high school quarterback yes, as a NFL quarterback no. After college you either have it or you don't, this is like speed, it isn't something you can really work on.

When you say develop accuracy I believe it is more of the offensive scheme molding to what you're good at, not you becoming more accurate. Did you see Rodgers throw those darts last night? Newton will never be able to do that but if we give him the right scheme it will seem as if his accuracy has improved.

Read Bree's scouting report going into the NFL draft, Weakness > accuracy.... @_@ do what???

[Mr ocho nueve]

Young is better than Cutler, and a lot tougher too. So it wasnt surprising he was drafted ahead of him. Cutler is a fantastic passer with a cannon arm. He also has underrated mobility that I like and can scramble and make plays. He also puts up a lot of INTs and gets sacked a lot which hurts his football team. The guy just isnt a winner. If you like to win, then VY is your guy. He finds ways to get crucial 3rd downs, he can scramble, he can pass in the clutch. VY gets criticized and beat up for wanting to go back in the game, Cutler gets slammed for wanting to come out of it. Cutler would be sitting behind Vick & VY in Philly.

You gotta be kidding me. Young could turn out better than Cutler, but with his mental issues and what not lead me to believe the guy will be a bench rider the rest of his career. Cutler has more than 1 up on Young right now.