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Gabbert now #3 on Jags depth chart


King Taharqa

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Brady Quinn again in a pro offense.

A very high percentage of drafted qb's in the NFL don't make it even if they are 1st round picks, so the odds are against any individual player, pro style or not. Doesn't mean that Cam won't make it, or that Gabbert will. They will eventually succeed or fail based on their own abilities. But imo, playing in a pro style offense does help in the transition to the NFL. And sitting out a year or two does tend to be better for the young qb's. There are certainly exceptions to that rule, but taking a year to acclimate is usually best.

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You Cam haters, never give up do you?

I'm not hating saying that Cam would be the no. 3 on most teams. He should probably start at the no. 3 position for this team.

Let's look at facts and not draft position or marketing.

He is a rookie in a very shortened offseason.

He is not mechanically nor mentally ready to be a starting QB in the NFL yet.

If I were a team with playoff hopes, a rook would not back up my starting QB.

I believe in letting a rookie sit and learn, then take over, not be given a starting job. (Sanchez, Ryan, Newton)

That's not hating, it's my opinion on how I would start the season if I were in charge. Obviously I am not.

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I'm not hating saying that Cam would be the no. 3 on most teams. He should probably start at the no. 3 position for this team.

Let's look at facts and not draft position or marketing.

He is a rookie in a very shortened offseason.

He is not mechanically nor mentally ready to be a starting QB in the NFL yet.

If I were a team with playoff hopes, a rook would not back up my starting QB.

I believe in letting a rookie sit and learn, then take over, not be given a starting job. (Sanchez, Ryan, Newton)

That's not hating, it's my opinion on how I would start the season if I were in charge. Obviously I am not.

I don't care if we brought in Mcnabb as QB, we weren't destined for the playoffs.

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I don't care if we brought in Mcnabb as QB, we weren't destined for the playoffs.

I wasn't talking about us.

If you will read my initial post, I said that he would be the 3rd QB on most teams.

Most teams are making a push for the playoffs. The Jags are one of those teams.

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The reason that Jack Del Rio has Gabbert as the third QB on the team is because he needs to try and win now. Earlier in the year it was said that Wayne Weaver has basically given Garrard and Del Rio each a 1 year window to get into the playoffs. If they don't, they are both gone. Who can win more games this year for Del Rio? Garrard or Gabbert? Likely Garrard, for this year. Factor in Gabbert has only been on the team for like a month and McCown gives them a better chance to win now if Garrard gets hurt.

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I didn't want Gabbert at #1 but I wanted Gabbert more than Newton.... I thought Gabbert was "more ready" in some ways but I wouldn't have wanted him starting the regular season, either. Gabbert didn't come from a pro offense, and nor was he a one year wonder (more like a two year decent starter).

Gabbert was told from the get go he was not going to start in Jax. The plan for the Jags has been very different from ours from day one... because they wanted to sit Gabbert.

I actually think the release of Garrard is indicative of Gabbert being further along than the coaches expected. He will likely be starting by mid season, instead of sitting the entire year. That's pretty big. Del Rio has to basically get to the playoffs OR have Gabbert look hot in the last few games of the season (thereby making the team brass think Del Rio can do something next year with a bright future behind a young QB) to save his job.

Also, as to him starting hot and ending cold, he's made some great throws and made some bad ones all throughout the preseason. He has consistently improved his timing with his receivers though from game to game, and he's been hitting throws every game that make you think he could have a bright future if he can pull it together.

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I didn't want Gabbert at #1 but I wanted Gabbert more than Newton.... I thought Gabbert was "more ready" in some ways but I wouldn't have wanted him starting the regular season, either. Gabbert didn't come from a pro offense, and nor was he a one year wonder (more like a two year decent starter).

Gabbert was told from the get go he was not going to start in Jax. The plan for the Jags has been very different from ours from day one... because they wanted to sit Gabbert.

I actually think the release of Garrard is indicative of Gabbert being further along than the coaches expected. He will likely be starting by mid season, instead of sitting the entire year. That's pretty big. Del Rio has to basically get to the playoffs OR have Gabbert look hot in the last few games of the season (thereby making the team brass think Del Rio can do something next year with a bright future behind a young QB) to save his job.

Also, as to him starting hot and ending cold, he's made some great throws and made some bad ones all throughout the preseason. He has consistently improved his timing with his receivers though from game to game, and he's been hitting throws every game that make you think he could have a bright future if he can pull it together.

Funny how those who were arguing that Blaine was a "more ready" NFL QB all but ignored his college years and went way back to his high school days to make their argument because he played pro style offense but Cam is a "one year wonder" because they only choose to acknowlege what he did in his one season at Auburn, while ignoring that he also took Blinn to their NC the year before.

I expect that level of selective and deceitful argument from fans who want to give their favorite an advantage so they pick and choose their version of reality but not those who call themselves experts of the game.

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Funny how those who were arguing that Blaine was a "more ready" NFL QB all but ignored his college years and went way back to his high school days...

eh?? Gabbert was spending his time in the offseason and during down time in the school year working on taking snaps from under center with a QB coach throughout his college career... he spent three years in the same college football system, and the two years he started he showed definitive improvement in what he could do on the field in terms of recognition of defenses, play calling, and target selection. He was by no means worth the #1 overall, but at the time, I didn't think Cam was either (still don't, but he hopefully proves me wrong!)

cam was a 'one year wonder' because of what he did at auburn then left. My concern with him in that general area wasn't really that he was a one year wonder but that he had limited passing reps compared to some other QBs, Gabbert included. There was fear he relied on his legs too much, etc, because we simply didn't get a chance to see him play for more than one season against decent opponents. His footwork was atrocious and I was not impressed by his actual passing ability itself. but he had undeniable positives too, not the least of which was his infectious charisma, and I wasn't concerned with him as a person though I did understand why some others were(and nobody I know who DID have concerns in that are still do, he has really proven himself since entering the draft to be a very hard worker etc)

as to the Juco stuff, obviously he won there and I applaud him for that, but most people heavily discount juco stuff.

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eh?? Gabbert was spending his time in the offseason and during down time in the school year working on taking snaps from under center with a QB coach throughout his college career... he spent three years in the same college football system, and the two years he started he showed definitive improvement in what he could do on the field in terms of recognition of defenses, play calling, and target selection. He was by no means worth the #1 overall, but at the time, I didn't think Cam was either (still don't, but he hopefully proves me wrong!)

cam was a 'one year wonder' because of what he did at auburn then left. My concern with him in that general area wasn't really that he was a one year wonder but that he had limited passing reps compared to some other QBs, Gabbert included. There was fear he relied on his legs too much, etc, because we simply didn't get a chance to see him play for more than one season against decent opponents. His footwork was atrocious and I was not impressed by his actual passing ability itself. but he had undeniable positives too, not the least of which was his infectious charisma, and I wasn't concerned with him as a person though I did understand why some others were(and nobody I know who DID have concerns in that are still do, he has really proven himself since entering the draft to be a very hard worker etc)

as to the Juco stuff, obviously he won there and I applaud him for that, but most people heavily discount juco stuff.[/QUOTE]

Please don't tell me the NFL don't have QBs who attended JUCOs and were successful there. I believe Aaron Rogers did and was praised for it by the same folks who are now acting as if JUCO wins don't count....As I said before...HYPOCRITS...IMO, everywhere that Aaron went made him the QB he is today. I'm sure the same can be said of Cam.

Anyway, Auburn was Cam's last stop. It wasn't his first and only stop. A one hit wonder is a person who, after many years, never duplicate their most successful year. Isn't it hypocritical to call Cam a "one hit wonder" seeing that he did duplicate his feat from Blinn at Auburn...

Also, Cam wasn't bad in UF either...Go ask Meyer and Dan Mullen, who seemed upset cause Cam choose Auburn over MSU...

BTW, I would take Mallett and Jake over Blaine any day. Did u actually check his background. He's a glorified Clausen. pretty decent with his short distance but suck anything pass 15 feet...

And I agree with u..Cam had the least amount of reps out of all the QBs in this years draft but his ability to adapt and pick up on what he has learnt so far, shows me that Auburn and Blinn more leaned on what better suited their agenda than Cam just being a "running QB."

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