National Cam haters haven't watch Panthers

[footballisasport]

Add Clark Judge to that list, he says by starting Newton he "could" become Ryan Leaf. However, the organization is scared not to start him because of the revenue hit it would take by sitting him.

Edit: Link-- I know people will be asking...

http://clarkjudge.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6384866/31692335

This was the same writer who was upset cause Cam didn't stop and give him some talk time during an event the week of the draft and whined about it like a spoiled brat. He never has anything nice to say about Cam. And he also stated that Andy Dalton would be the top rookie QB because he beat the Panthers. This man clearly has a vendetta against Cam.

Today's sports media folks now, not only feel it's their job to police the NFL, but to dictate and push who should and shouldn't succeed in the NFL.

[Seltzer]

That isn't true. In 05 Smitty could take a smoke route 10 yards or more (endless potential). Doesn't have that to the degree he did years ago....his YAC and ability in open space is evaluated with QB play taken out of the equation.

He isn't the same guy. Still a top WR but he isn't as dangerous in certain scenarios he use to be. That isn't something that is being based off of 2010 alone.

Honest objective analysis there. Smitty still has what it takes to be a top 15 receiver, and he can still beat single coverage all day long.

But he was playing at an other-worldly level in 2005 and to a certain extent through 2008. Consistently beating double-teams, scoring from anywhere on the field. A WR should not take a smoke route to the house, as he did multiple times.

I don't think he can do that now, even with great QB play. He's almost 32. Still a great receiver but not top 5 like he was a few years ago.

In some ways it is a shame that he didn't get good QB play all the way through and has been hurt some. Otherwise, I think he could be a border-line HoF'er.

Regardless, he is still the best offensive player the Panthers have ever had and it's all said and done, his highlight reel is still effing incredible

[TheRealDeal]

watch the play again, they sent a strong blitz. he found an opening and took off, which was the right thing to do in that scenario. The gain would have been about the same or even less if he had thrown it.

Cam hit the top of his drop, the blitz was picked up, he had a nice pocket, Smith is running free, and he takes off.

You can't argue with it. He either doesn't understand the plays, doesn't understand protections, or gets flustered in the pocket and takes off.

[CRA]

This was the same writer who was upset cause Cam didn't stop and give him some talk time during an event the week of the draft and whined about it like a spoiled brat. He never has anything nice to say about Cam. And he also stated that Andy Dalton would be the top rookie QB because he beat the Panthers. This man clearly has a vendetta against Cam.

FYI, no one in the elite sports media will be praising Cam. At least not if they can help it.

you are thinking of Peter King.....better King went to twitter and thought because he thought he was entitled to an interview b/c he showed up somewhere. Gantt actually made a pretty fair comment about the entitlement some reporters have (or maybe Whitlock said it). Someone did a good job of pointing out how dumb King was.....someone I normally think is off.

[chef17]

LOL.

DID NOT SAY NOR WAS IMPLYING CAM WAS READY PEOPLE. HE IS NOT. But that is okay.

Point is based on what we have seen in recent years......there is a reason for optimism. The national media has people on every corner trying to paint it as desperation of a team.

If you watched the prior years leading up to the start of the regular season.....we have a reason to be optimistic for a change.....that is the point!

Every sport news site has someone on the Cam ain't ready bandwagon. Clearly the haven't followed our team in the past.

Cam missed OTAs and most of the standard prep time heading into a season. He is raw and unpolished. HOWEVER...

We have yet to see someone in consideration for a starting job at QB have as productive of a preseason as Cam going back to the 2009 preseason.

Cam's preseason in 2010 > 2010 Moore, 2010 Clausen, 2009 Jake

Passing TD? check

Rushing TD? check

No turnovers? check

When you start a thread by saying "national people who say Cam isn't ready clearly haven't followed the team", that to me implies that you are saying Cam is ready.

[ncbobcat]

Does Judge have a valid point about handling success and failure at this level for a rookie and his long term development?

[footballisasport]

Cam hit the top of his drop and took off, before letting Smith's route get to where it needs to be.

He needs to have that anticipation to be successful. 1 extra hit he didn't need in his career and it's not like Cam made anyone miss, he got tackled a yard after he came up to the first defender.

You can make all the excuses you want to defend it, bad decision by Cam rooted in some of his deep weaknesses.

Why am I not surprised that u would find something to negatively harp on about Cam's play last night... Yep, ur sounding more and more like a "worried" Panther fan and not a person with personal dislike for Cam.

[CRA]

Cam hit the top of his drop, the blitz was picked up, he had a nice pocket, Smith is running free, and he takes off.

You can't argue with it. He either doesn't understand the plays, doesn't understand protections, or gets flustered in the pocket and takes off.

Again, you fail to recognize what Cam is. He did understand....he did what had the best potential for success. He felt the heat (see Stewart)....saw open field and took off w/ one of the best blocking WRs as his lead man in the open field.

If it was such a bad decision....Steve Smith would not of been so excited. Steve Smith's reaction is the trump card to your Cam hate of the play.

[TheRealDeal]

I am worried.

A major concern of his was not being able to read NFL defenses, not getting off his first read, being a run first QB, etc.

That play showed how all of those seem to be true. It's very worrisome.

[CRA]

When you start a thread by saying "national people who say Cam isn't ready clearly haven't followed the team", that to me implies that you are saying Cam is ready.

Not what I meant. I meant preseason QB play has been so bad recently from our potential starters......that there is no reason to be so down on Cam heading into this season. Not if you have followed this team. We have limped into each season the past 2 years with QBs literally doing nothing in the preseason.

Cam has done some things which is a difference heading into the year.....reason for optimism. Not what the national media is spinning.

[TheRealDeal]

If it was such a bad decision....Steve Smith would not of been so excited. Steve Smith's reaction is the trump card to your Cam hate of the play.

If we could be in the film room today, you think they are going to say, "Okay guys, Steve looked pumped, lets move on from this play..."

or are they going to actually break down the play and tell Cam what he should have done, which is stay in the pocket and deliver the pass to a wide open wide receiver.

[footballisasport]

Does Judge have a valid point about handling success and failure at this level for a rookie and his long term development?

He had an article stating that the Andy Dalton, rookie QB with the most fumble so far this preseason, should be rookie QB of the year if he had his way.

I guess anyone can make a valid point but it's their agenda I'm more concerned with.

[TheRealDeal]

Not what I meant. I meant preseason QB play has been so bad recently from our potential starters......that there is no reason to be so down on Cam heading into this season. Not if you have followed this team. We have limped into each season the past 2 years with QBs literally doing nothing in the preseason.

Uhh...We had to bench our starter from the preseason the past two years...

Not the comparison I'd want to draw to "calm" everyone about it being "just the preseason"

[CRA]

I am worried.

A major concern of his was not being able to read NFL defenses, not getting off his first read, being a run first QB, etc.

That play showed how all of those seem to be true. It's very worrisome.

only you can take a promising drive from a rookie QB and turn it into a perfect example (in your mind) of why he will suck.

go troll another thread.