Cam's Amazing Stats... Not Kidding

[Captain Obvious]

After the NFL season ends Cam will be dispatched to Africa to end the famine and then go to Iran to bring middle east peace and on the way home he will stop at the Vatican to be sainted before heading to Stockholm for all of the Nobel prizes in every category. THIS IS THEEEEEEEEEE CAM!!!!!! I'm sold.

[TheRealDeal]

Because photo stills are always perfectly accurate in depicting the dynamics of an NFL play.

*snap* LOOK THERE'S A POCKET!

You are one piece of work. You will hate him (and deny it) with your every breath. Its really a shame you're not going to enjoy watching him develop.

So is your argument that there was not a pocket there?

[mav1234]

After the NFL season ends Cam will be dispatched to Africa to end the famine and then go to Iran to bring middle east peace and on the way home he will stop at the Vatican to be sainted before heading to Stockholm for all of the Nobel prizes in every category. THIS IS THEEEEEEEEEE CAM!!!!!! I'm sold.

Cam would cause world peace only because instead of arguing about anything else, his sudden appearance will draw everyone into a debate about his future successes/failures ;)

[Proudiddy]

While the announcers made a big deal out of Smith's block, I don't know how big a difference it actually made, because it looked like Cam got taken down by two other guys at the same time Smith made his block. At the same time, if he had thrown the ball (and let's assume a completion), Smith was several yards ahead of him and was already running. Smith is faster and more evasive than Cam, even if he isn't as much of a wrecking ball, and who knows what would have happened....

still, I'm glad he kept that drive alive.

Smitty might be faster and we think more elusive, but he's also smaller and guy would be more willing to try to light him up. They were purposely giving use that cushion in front of the first down marker, so they would've came crashing down on Smitty after he caught it... If he caught it... If the throw wasn't deflected... If the throw was on target... If Smitty didn't trip... If Smitty didn't fumble... If Smitty didn't bobble it...

My point is, a 20 yard run happened. During that run, we greatly reduced the risk of possible negative outcomes by Cam tucking it and running instead of tossing it to Smitty who was a few yards in front of him. By running, Cam also was able to use Smitty as a shield to pick up even more yardage whether Smitty put his hands on someone or not...

If Smitty would've caught it cleanly and it was thrown accurately, he would've had the same amount of defenders as Cam, is smaller in stature, and would've had one less blocker than Cam did.

We saw the result. We don't know what would've happened otherwise. What was wrong with this decision? :lol:

[mav1234]

Smitty might be faster and we think more elusive, but he's also smaller and guy would be more willing to try to light him up. They were purposely giving use that cushion in front of the first down marker, so they would've came crashing down on Smitty after he caught it... If he caught it... If the throw wasn't deflected... If the throw was on target... If Smitty didn't trip... If Smitty didn't fumble... If Smitty didn't bobble it...

You're making no sense relating to why they gave ground to Newton but not Smith. I can guarantee you those guys were itching for a chance to hit Cam. The same running lane was available to Smith, but he was already moving and was further down field. Of course, you're right that random chaos could have intervened, but really... Deflected?? He isn't Jimmy Clausen. ;) But seriously, Cam could have had any number of other chaotic things happen to him too. In general, I think running should be a last resort, and not frequently used when you have your most explosive receiver wide'fing open in front of you.

Nobody is afraid to hit Cam Newton right now. Maybe they will be in the future, but I doubt it.

Ultimately the result was positive and it was good, but my personal preference is to get the ball in Smith's hands as much as possible when he's that open.

[tiger7_88]

So is your argument that there was not a pocket there?

A collapsing pocket was there. And as he stepped into it, the field opened up before him.

And he did what he does so well. And what 99.99% of Panther fans are going to enjoy watching him do as he progresses.

(Please note that I left some space for you.)

[klumme]

So now a 19 yds run on a 3rd and 10 is a bad play? Wow..

Had he throwned to Smitty and he had dropped it then Cam was a fool who cant read the field etc etc.

On a 3rd and long with a rookie at QB I want him to take the option with the highest succesrate. Here he got a lot of room to run making it a play with a 100% succes rate. Good play at this point in his NFL life.

[Razeyfingers]

I just can't help but believe that he has decided to test his debating ability by taking a controversial and minority position and then seeing if he can win the debate with well crafted posts obfuscating the obvious with red herring points irrelevant to the argument at large. The point is to win the argument any way possible. Otherwise why would he actually argue that there is anything wrong with running 19 yards for a first down on a critical third down. It surely can't be based on nornally accepted traditional football wisdom and knowledge. Sure you don't want to do it every series, but to even intimate that it is not a desirable thing makes no sense. Only someone purposely looking to bait someone into an argument would possible keep arguing that position.

It might be more obvious to some than it is to himself.

Never took the time to think about it, still could give two chits. It mainly just gets in the way at this point.

[mav1234]

How would Cam have been a fool for not reading the field if he found a WIDE OPEN SMITH who then dropped it?? That wouldn't have been Cam's fault at all...

There's a massive problem when throwing to our #1 receiver who is wide open and has like 30 yards of space is considered a risk...

[Davidson Deac II]

I was against Cam running the ball, but man he runs smart and is a big boy to try and tackle

I am still against it happening to much. Starting Qb is to valuable to have him run a lot. Its nice to know that he can run when needed, but if he runs an average of more than 5 times a game (intentional runs not running away from sacks), that's not good for his career, or for the team.

[whatever]

Pocket didn't collapse, that's what a pocket in the NFL looks like. You must "step up in the pocket" to make throws.

Cam should know Smitty was coming right there as it looks like that was the whole play design, clear out the left and have Smith drag across.

Cam ran.

the 3rd down was converted and the play was good for 20 yards, but by all means, keep reaching.

[klumme]

How would Cam have been a fool for not reading the field if he found a WIDE OPEN SMITH who then dropped it?? That wouldn't have been Cam's fault at all....

You know very well that someone would have argued that Cam took a dumb decision by risking a drop and had he read the field he would have seen the open lane and run it.

[whatever]

Do you think Cam would think twice about running if he ran into say...Ray Lewis?

nope

[I am Hubby]

Exactly. Using a minute point of debate to define the argument while ignoring the elephant in the room as if it isn't there. Too bad for him that people like you see through it with little problem.

I am sure there are plenty of us around here that see what he is doing. You have to give him credit for one thing though, he is consistant.

Most times it is best to keep movin' on. However, there are times, when for some strange reason, we all feel the need to stop and examine the poo.

Oh well, message boards are what they are. 95% human, and .....