Our Defense is Awful..

[francois.nc]

What are we going to do, our Defense is just plain ugly. I realize Beason is out, and while I think he is great player I have major concerns on how we are going to fix this.

We can never get off the field, we get absolutely no push at all. I am so sick of everyone saying how we need to cut Armanti or Jimmy. We need to can our entire defense, I mean seriously, did anyone watch the Bungles deystroy us last week, and we couldn't stop the great Charlie Batch this week.

While I think we will be much better on O, with the new TE weapons and a competent QB, the defense just can't get off the field.

5-11 at best, this sucks.

[Chaos]

I have a feeling we will be looking for some defensive players between now and the season opener. If we see it - then the coaching staff is all over it.

[panthers55]

You could say the same thing about Pittsburgh last night. They didn't look great either and we all know that they are one of the best in the league. It is preseason and we are still installing our blitz packages. Lets wait until the bye to see what we have. This is a new system and players need time and reps until they do things without thinking. We will start off slow and struggle at first just like we did when Meeks installed his defense a few years ago. But with Rivera being a defensive guru I really doubt it stays this bad for long.

[ChuckWag78]

everyone relax. Aside from the first preseason game we have been running a very vanilla system.

You will see the D open up in week one with much more pressure.

[francois.nc]

everyone relax. Aside from the first preseason game we have been running a very vanilla system.

You will see the D open up in week one with much more pressure.

I hope you are right, but what I see right now is crap like Cedric Benson / Isaac Redmen slamming it down our thoat, and Andy Dalton / Charlie Batch picking our secondary apart.

Those aren't good things to see, while I felt better about what Cam did last night against the Steelers first team D, we have been just awful.

[csx]

5-11 at best, this sucks.

What did you expect? Seriously

[Hairless Cat]

I for one never suspected our d would be a problem this year.

[Captain Obvious]

The "vanilla" excuse is just not cutting it anymore. Our DB's are so soft we can't blitz or we get burned. We can get no pressure from the front four so the QB has like 25 years to throw. Hard to tackle a RB as you are getting pushed backwards. I think its safe to say we have a long way to go.

[CRA]

grab a vet DT and CB and insert Beason and the D will automatically look different.

[nosuchthingasapanther]

You could say the same thing about Pittsburgh last night. They didn't look great either and we all know that they are one of the best in the league. It is preseason and we are still installing our blitz packages. Lets wait until the bye to see what we have. This is a new system and players need time and reps until they do things without thinking. We will start off slow and struggle at first just like we did when Meeks installed his defense a few years ago. But with Rivera being a defensive guru I really doubt it stays this bad for long.

the steelers rested a lot of their starters on both sides of the ball.

it was nice to see carolina's offense move the ball, but that wasn't the first string defense they were up against.

like i've said in the past, carolina's defense will be the team's achilles this season. the defense didn't look bad when meeks installed a new system...this defense has personell issues, not issues with a new system.

[CRA]

the steelers rested a lot of their starters on both sides of the ball.

it was nice to see carolina's offense move the ball, but that wasn't the first string defense they were up against.

like i've said in the past, carolina's defense will be the team's achilles this season. the defense didn't look bad when meeks installed a new system...this defense has personell issues, not issues with a new system.

okay, well if you want to make an exception for the Steelers b/c they sat Troy......how come the fact a 3rd string MLB was in for Carolina?

Pointless to nitpick who is in....overall that was a first string D of a very good D.

Meeks' system is nothing compared to what they are trying to install. Meeks system was noted as being much more simplistic than the prior DC.

[jarhead]

Let hope we can upgrade DT and cb claiming someone off waivers.I think Riveria is doing everything he can to upgrade the DT spot.The guy from Seattle was cut after a week.It will all come down to who becomes availile.I doubt a good DT will be cut though...better shot getting a cb

Same goes for offense....Better chance of upgrading a number 2 wr than what I feel will be avaiible at guard or tackle but we will more than likely be able to upgrade the position at guard given who we have.

[JawnyBlaze]

I saw Florio made a similar snide comment about it being mostly, if not all, backups for Pittsburgh. As far as I could tell, the only starters they sat were Polomalu and Harrison. I still saw Timmons, Woodley, McFadden, Clark, Taylor, most if not all starting 3 of their DL. The only other starter I didn't see was Farrior, but he was probably just scared of getting choke slammed by Stewart again.

[rfn]

It's true we need some vets in the middle of the D line but unlike you guys I saw lots of improvement in the D last night. Our line just fell apart aganst the Bengals and we were pretty well geting blown of the LOS. Last night we held our points much better but were still getting driven back after contact on the running plays.

Our coverage was loose in the first series but we were making the recievers pay for it and in the second series we tighten the coverage up a bit.

Overall we scored as much as them in the first half and TOP was even. Much better than at Cinncy.