Pat Yasinskas "unleash Newton"

[Dont Check My Chicken]

I must admit that I wasn't pleased with the drafting of Cam because I knew his passing game needed lots of work. But, I became a fan when I saw how he could take a hard hit without fumbling on his first sack. Yes, his running threat will change things in the NFL, but his protection of the ball will change things for the Panthers!

[The Saltman]

im half middle eastern and I still get sunburnt like an albino *****

[Fiz]

im half middle eastern and I still get sunburnt like an albino *****

that's because you're an unclean jew and every rash is proof of allah's divine justice

[carolinarolls]

just to make this thread worthwhile

"Rescue Me" is hilarious right now. I am not a real fan of he show, maybe seen about two other episodes prior, but this wedding episode is genius.

[rico6]

Another positive thread about Cam turned into a race war?

[top dawg]

When discussing Vick's revolutionizing of the QB position in the latest ESPN mag, they discussed how the NFL establishment should perhaps get with the times of new more mobile QBs like Newton (and they did reference Cam as a possible case study), and let them do what they do. There is nothing inherently wrong with a dual threat QB, and there really may be a problem with trying to bottle up potential greatness because of outdated, conservative philosophy. Playing to strengths just may be the way to go.

[The Saltman]

When discussing Vick's revolutionizing of the QB position in the latest ESPN mag, they discussed how the NFL establishment should perhaps get with the times of new more mobile QBs like Newton (and they did reference Cam as a possible case study), and let them do what they do. There is nothing inherently wrong with a dual threat QB, and there really may be a problem with trying to bottle up potential greatness because of outdated, conservative philosophy. Playing to strengths just may be the way to go.

didnt atlanta try that with vick? how did that work out?

[Jackofalltrades]

I must admit that I wasn't pleased with the drafting of Cam because I knew his passing game needed lots of work. But, I became a fan when I saw how he could take a hard hit without fumbling on his first sack. Yes, his running threat will change things in the NFL, but his protection of the ball will change things for the Panthers!

Welcome.

[Jackofalltrades]

didnt atlanta try that with vick? how did that work out?

His 50% accuracy didn't make him a real "dual" threat. Not consistently anyway.

[top dawg]

didnt atlanta try that with vick? how did that work out?

Not really, they were two different offensive philosophies at work, according to the article. Don't have it right on hand, but I believe they said something about how Atlanta's offensive philosophy was based on Dan Reeves' philosophy (I believe), which was more conservative and ol' skool, which tried to force Vick to be a pocket passer at all costs.

[panthers55]

didnt atlanta try that with vick? how did that work out?

Seems to me they beat us like a drum with Vick in Atlanta ad made the playoffs several times. Not bad for a Qb who admitted he didn't learn the WCO offense while he was there and had fewer tools to work with than Newton does. Imagine what Vick could do with good teachers, strong motivation to succeed and hard work.

Wait..........

That is exactly what he had last year in Philly.

[The Saltman]

im just saying that he looked much better in philly as a pocket passer and used his other skills when need be. In Atlanta it was much different. He ran a lot more, got hurt a lot more, and things went downhill from there.

[mercules20]

The idea that these linebackers are suddenly going to kill a 6'5 250 pound man is laughable.

:cam:

The romanticizing of just how incredibly destructive LBs of the NFL are has become incredibly overblown at this point.

Generally they aren't that much stronger than any college LB. They are faster, more fundamentally sound, and smarter. Linebackers don't go from wimpy college kids to super humans just bc they get drafted into the NFL.

I personally know a guy that played linebacker in high school that is likely stronger than 90% of NFL LBs but he never even played much in college. He couldn't tackle and had no lateral movement.

I agree we don't want Cam running 20 times a game but give me a break. The LBs that Marshawn Lynch ran all over and stiff armed all over the place in the playoffs last year aren't supermen.

not to mention they're in our division :)

[top dawg]

According to the ESPN Magazine article:

In his first four seasons as a full-time starter, he was named to three Pro Bowls, and by 2004 Vick had the Falcons in the NFC championship game---all while operating in schemes that often hindered his rare gifts instead of accentuating them. Until 2004, Vick ran Dan Reeves' run oriented offense, an antiquated system incorporating elements back to the 1970s...'There has been a change in the entire philosophy of football,' says Steelers defensive coordinator Dick Labeau. 'You can hardly watch a high school game today without seeing empty backfields, spread-out receivers and teams throwing 70% of the time. The quarterbacks are more gifted and the game is wide open.'...the new Vick displayed preternatural poise inside the pocket. He didn't bolt at the first sign of trouble. He stayed one step ahead of defensive stunts and disguises. He showed a mastery of Reid's complex scheme. which is designed to push the vertical limits of the west coast offense. It was a natural fit for Vick, who found himself operating much like a point guard in basketball---deciphering the chaos, calmly distributing the ball and calling his number only when absolutely necessary.

He may have been beating our ass, but he was losing confidence. He admitted his loss of confidence in the article. He says Reid's schemes have made all the difference.

Anyone who doesn't have an ESPN Mag subscription, may want to get this one. Might give you some insight into the way we should possibly be handling Cam. It also has a piece on the probable success of the anti-Cam, Sam Bradford. Both can be successful playing to their respective strengths.