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Pat Yasinskas "unleash Newton"


micnificent28

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The idea that these linebackers are suddenly going to kill a 6'5 250 pound man is laughable.

The romanticizing of just how incredibly destructive LBs of the NFL are has become incredibly overblown at this point.

Generally they aren't that much stronger than any college LB. They are faster, more fundamentally sound, and smarter. Linebackers don't go from wimpy college kids to super humans just bc they get drafted into the NFL.

I personally know a guy that played linebacker in high school that is likely stronger than 90% of NFL LBs but he never even played much in college. He couldn't tackle and had no lateral movement.

I agree we don't want Cam running 20 times a game but give me a break. The LBs that Marshawn Lynch ran all over and stiff armed all over the place in the playoffs last year aren't supermen.

Wouldn't smarter, more fundamentally sound, faster, and quicker laterally LBs be able to get more hits on a running QB?

"Guys, the linebackers in the NFL aren't better than those in college, they are just the elite of the elite then they get bigger, faster, smarter, sounder and quicker. No way that leads to more hits on a QB"

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My guess is that opponents will scheme to prevent Cam from running and challenge him to beat them with his arm.

This means 8 men in the box which we had no answer for last year, but now we have guys named Olsen and Shockey who make a damn good living on 8 men in the box.

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I've been thinking about this and, assuming the coaching staff knows what it's doing, it doesn't make any sense for them to expect him to run the offense the way they've been doing in the preseason. It makes more sense (strategically and developmentally) to hide their real intentions for him and to give him game practice running stuff they'll want him to eventually. Due to the shortened training camp schedules, those preseason games were basically glorified scrimmages.

I'm not expecting it because it's too perfect, but I also wouldn't be surprised if they came out with a completely different game plan against Arizona. "You expected us to pass? HAHA! triple option time bitch."

I don't know about the last part but I agree with your post.

Although it would be cool to see an offense like the one Chan Gailey created for Tyler Thigpen when Chan was the OC in Kansas City.

Gailey created an NFL version of the Pistol/Spread option:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcsQSBxiz9w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksl2dg0XYKE&feature=related

or an expanded version of The Golden Calf of Bristol's RZ package:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfri3If77RA&feature=related

But back to your larger point very few teams show their hand in preseason.

This staff drafted Cam for a reason and unless they're completely blind or crazy they're gonna use Cam's mobility as major components in this offense.

I think there are a few concepts that we can count on.

-Heavy run

-Play-action passing

-Bootlegs, Waggles, Roll-outs, sprint outs/dash outs

-Use of dual TEs

-Shotgun

-Cam making plays with legs

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Wouldn't smarter, more fundamentally sound, faster, and quicker laterally LBs be able to get more hits on a running QB?

"Guys, the linebackers in the NFL aren't better than those in college, they are just the elite of the elite then they get bigger, faster, smarter, sounder and quicker. No way that leads to more hits on a QB"

I didn't mean to suggest that he wouldn't get hit more. I was suggesting that the hits would get aren't going to suddenly be 10x more devastating than they were last year. In most cases when Cam is in the open field he will be tackled, not hit from behind or blindly. In a lot of ways because the LBs are faster and more fundamentally sound it will actually protect Cam because NFL LBs aren't as reckless, they have to actually tackle. As far as taking really, really big hits, that is actually more likely to happen inside the pocket than out of it.

The point is that linebackers don't suddenly become supermen by getting drafted in the NFL. He will be able to take some hits form NFL linebackers and not "be carried off on a stretcher"

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I didn't mean to suggest that he wouldn't get hit more. I was suggesting that the hits would get aren't going to suddenly be 10x more devastating than they were last year. In most cases when Cam is in the open field he will be tackled, not hit from behind. In a lot of ways because the LBs are faster and more fundamentally sound it will actually protect Cam because LBs aren't as reckless. As far as taking really, really big hits, that is actually more likely to happen inside the pocket than out of it.

The point is that they don't suddenly become supermen by getting drafted in the NFL. He will be able to take some hits form NFL linebackers and not "be carried off on a stretcher"

Blasphemy :eek:

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one of the worst parts of drafting cam is that this website, as a whole, lacks the intelligence and skilled observational capacity to intelligently comment on and speculate about what's going on.

The Newton situation has really dragged carolinahuddle down further into the mud than it was already.

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Cam would have to be "historically" bad for the Panthers to draft Luck. I'm talking biblical proportions bad. There would actually have to be locust descending upon the field when he drops back to pass and receivers getting stigmata every time they catch the ball. Looking from almost every angle instead except Cam being monumentally bad there is no way a franchise not run by Matt Millen would draft Luck with as many holes as we have to fill. Paying 2 QB's 1st round money? Even if it's reduced that's crazy. Developmentally you coaching staff would have to admit Cam has 0 chance of becoming a legitimate starter. Trade-ability? What value could you get out of Clausen and Cam(assuming he has a historically bad biblical plague type of year)? Fanbase support? What would that be saying to your fans? That you have no clue in drafting developing a QB so we are going to keep drafting QB's until we get it right?

Also your entire "theory" is based on the fact that Luck comes out as consensus number 1 next year. We have seen it happen several times that QB's anointed as the "Next Manning or Elway" tend to wilt under the intense media pressure. Being a West Coast QB Luck wasn't quite under the radar but it won't be any where close to that this year. Every thing he does is going to get broken down. What if Luck has a collapses like Jake Locker and Barkley tears it up? Will Luck still be number #1? Do you feel like there is a chance Carolina would choose Barkley if he has a better year than Luck?

So in conclusion, these things have to happen for the Panthers to draft Luck.

1.Carolina has to finish with the worst record in the NFL. San Fran is going to start players from their local starbucks if there is a chance to get Luck.

2.Luck has to have an outstanding year and not wilt under the intense pressure.

3.Carolina has to believe Cam has absolutely no chance of being a viable starter. Absolutely positively no chance at all.

4.Carolina must have no other needs. Not DT, not WR, not CB. not RG, not RT.

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The article says the exact same thing I told folks worried about him getting hurt yesterday. There are usually 4 guys on a defense as big as him and once he clears the line there are none bigger. He will more likely be hurt getting hit from the blind side by a fat defensive tackle or DE in the pocket versus running in space where he can see the hit coming.

Secondly people ignore that muscle protects ligaments from getting stretched or torn and protects players from injury. Newton has a better physique than every other quarterback and many runners. He will more resistant to injury because of it.

Thirdly most injuries happen when players don't see the other guys coming- blind side hits, linemen getting rolled up from behind, etc. Once in the open field Newton will be able to see guys bearing down on him and he can adjust accordingly.

Finally because he is a quarterback he can slide and avoid much of the contact on the ground which cause injuries by spearing.

Pat must be reading my posts for guidance. :D

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