What is really our problem?

[WhiteBoysCanRun22]

Lots of new players, new coaches, & both of our lines really need some improvement. I'm guessing we'll be just like the '09 Bucs (i.e. 3-13) but become dominant the next year (i.e. 10-6 or better)

[Urrymonster]

You can't mentally break Cam....

Dude is also built like a DE which helps. Plus, Cam is a "gamer". Panther fans will find out soon of enough what that means. What Cam shows when the bright lights and pressure is on....will always be different than in practice and what not.

That doesn't mean he will be great.....but I don't expect Cam to be what hurts this team the most in 2011

Everyone has their breaking points, for Cam he might start losing the enjoyment of playing the game.

[Chaos]

OP - you forgot to mention future Hall of Famer Andy Dalton to your list of young QB's outplaying ours.

[Mr. Scot]

Lot of problems: new coach, new system, fraction of normal prep time, new system with new concepts for Cam, poor OL play(right side), WR's that can't get separation, poor throwing mechanics, etc.

Yep. The mistake is to think there's only one problem.

It's a rebuilding year.

[chknwing]

The mistake is, there is no mistake. Rivera and company have a plan to get back to contention. Maybe have a little faith.

[MWCarolina]

it's simple. when Otah gets hurt the offensive line looks bad, usually on the right side. a Leonard Davis or Andre Gurode could fix this. the WRs besides Smith cant seem to seperate and the DTs arent playing well, either Fua or McClain or both arent playing well, perhaps an older player can start and help them grow and the cornerbacks arent playing well either. those are the main issues.

[bleys]

Anyone else remember 10 wins? LMFAO It amazed me how people expect this team with so much new to have any kind of chemistry. Chemistry win games ladies and gentlemen.

I remember any fool calling for 10 wins was brutally embarrassed.. they were the minority, and when I say minority, like 1 or 2..

[bleys]

Yep. The mistake is to think there's only one problem.

It's a rebuilding year.

exactly.. I won't be surprised if it takes this coaching staff a few years to retool certain positions.. namely our OLine. I would include our DLine, but I think they drafted those guys this year, it'll just take a few years for them to really shine..

I really don't expect much the next 2-3 years..

[KillerKat]

Our problem is all these god damn injuries!

[bleys]

I believe a lot of people are under estimating how complex the new offense is. Both Gross and Kalih have been on record saying it's very complex, and admitting that they are struggling picking it all up. These are two of our smartest players on the team. If they are struggling, imagine how much more difficult it is for the qbs, who must also help calling out protections. The starting oline hasn't even practiced together.

You guys are expecting miracles...without being the least bit realistic.

There is going to be growing pains. Both offensive, and defensive.

Stop blaming the players (saying they are no good, etc), and have a lil patience.

this message is going to need reiterated constantly to keep fans in check.. far too many Panther fans do not undertand football and what it requires and the time it takes..

[thefuzz]

exactly.. I won't be surprised if it takes this coaching staff a few years to retool certain positions.. namely our OLine. I would include our DLine, but I think they drafted those guys this year, it'll just take a few years for them to really shine..

I really don't expect much the next 2-3 years..

Coaches with losing records don't last long in the NFL.

[bleys]

Our problem is all these god damn injuries!

injuries are a problem for coaches like Fox who rely totally on vets to play the game. I'm hoping with this new coaching staff focusing on coaching up players that we will go the route a la Packers..

teh draft and coaching is where success lies in today's NFL... this means it'll take a while to instill a new atmosphere and a new perspective from fans..

the success of this coaching staff will be judged around year 4..

[bleys]

Coaches with losing records don't last long in the NFL.

certainly 3-4 years isn't too much to ask.. any rational person aside from fanatics should agree..

today's society has instilled this "right now" mentality that isn't realistic.. some teams like Jets, Steelers, KC can transition a coach based on the talent already acquired from early draft picks or decent coaching or a coaching tree already set in place..

we have not been afforded that luxury..

[Urrymonster]

this message is going to need reiterated constantly to keep fans in check.. far too many Panther fans do not undertand football and what it requires and the time it takes..

So if the most experienced and intelligent players are struggling to pick up the offense how can we really expect anyone to pick it up. Considering that, do our coaches need to adapt?

It seems a trifle short-sighted to try and install an incredibly complex offense in a shortened off-season and training camp...