What is really our problem?

[chef17]

We suck right now. That really is our problem

[Pejorative Miscreant]

Offensive line is the main culprit. I think smitty and one of the te will get separation and get open but if a young unseasoned qb is running for his life more times than not the throw will be off.

[4Corners]

Gross seems to get a pass from many huddlers, but I no longer consider him a top tier tackle.

[chef17]

Gabbert...Really?

I read this on another site

If it's truthful then maybe one of u couch coaches or experts can explain why Cam throws to the tight end is way better than the WRs? Maybe there lies one of the major problems.

Gabbert is 50% with a TD and INT. That isn't horrible, probably why he included Gabbert.

We aren't on the field with Cam, we can't explain why he can't hit WRs.

[4Corners]

Offensive line is the main culprit. I think smitty and one of the te will get separation and get open but if a young unseasoned qb is running for his life more times than not the throw will be off.

games are won in the trenches from both sides, and this is what scares me about this team.

[CRA]

Smitty has lost a step and cant consistantly get open anymore, the rest of our WR's really arent that good, a porous o line and finally inexperienced qb's. It isnt any great mystery.

Smith can still get open. He can't beat the double team like he use to. No one else can get open though outside of TEs....and that is trouble. Nor do they block well for the run.

[thennek]

Our O-line has been over-rated. The high ratings were based upon the 2009 season when Stewart and Williams were running all over the place. A younger Gross, a younger Wharton, Kalil, an aging but still very good Vincent, and a healthy Otah. Otah has been hurt, Vincent was let go, and Gross & Wharton are both 30+ now. I think it is time to draft a new stud LT, and either move Gross inside or back to RT. If Otah can't stay healthy, we might as well replace him.

[Marguide]

1) A fair amount of the blame can be put on the QB's themselves. No getting around it.

2) I honestly believe we have the worst WR corps in the league.

3) Poor play from the RG position, and to a lesser extent RT.

I expect #1 to get better as Cam gains experience, but #2 and #3 likely require additions to the roster.

[MadHatter]

Love the excuses....

It is the OLines fault

It is Smitty's fault

It is the coaches fault

It is everyone's fault but Cam Newton's.

Face it. Cam Newton is EXACTLY what his critics said he was. A great athlete....a cannon for an arm....a weapon with his legs....but a major project in the passing game.

It is NOT a bashing of Cam. It is merely an acceptance as to where he is in his development as an NFL QB. He is a project. He is getting better.....but still has a LONG way to go. He has tremendous potential....but is nowhere near ready to start.

However, we backed ourselves into the corner. We have Clausen (who is not better than Cam at this stage at best) and a vet who has struggled for several years and is not a legitimate starter in this league.

We would have been MUCH better off doing exactly what every other team who took one of these over-rated QB's in this dfraft (except for Cinncinnati). They ALL either had a vet or went and signed one to allow the young guy to develop.

Ponder...McNabb

Gabbert...Garrard

Locker....Hasselbeck

We have virtually no other choice but to start Cam.

[Urrymonster]

even when Otah comes back......pass blocking isn't his specialty. He is a beast of a run blocker.

Team was built to play the style of football played 20 years ago under Fox. No young QB is going to succeed until the OL upfront can give standard NFL pass protection. A QB like Cam is the only one who has a shot at having decent success....but his passing isn't going to drastically improve until he can be given more opportunites to sit back and make some throws w/o defenders impacting the overwhelming majority of attempts.

I don't disagree with you, however it's all relative. Otah's pass blocking is a huge upgrade over Garry Williams, despite him being an average pass blocking RT.

[panthers55]

Love the excuses....

It is the OLines fault

It is Smitty's fault

It is the coaches fault

It is everyone's fault but Cam Newton's.

Face it. Cam Newton is EXACTLY what his critics said he was. A great athlete....a cannon for an arm....a weapon with his legs....but a major project in the passing game.

It is NOT a bashing of Cam. It is merely an acceptance as to where he is in his development as an NFL QB. He is a project. He is getting better.....but still has a LONG way to go. He has tremendous potential....but is nowhere near ready to start.

However, we backed ourselves into the corner. We have Clausen (who is not better than Cam at this stage at best) and a vet who has struggled for several years and is not a legitimate starter in this league.

We would have been MUCH better off doing exactly what every other team who took one of these over-rated QB's in this dfraft (except for Cinncinnati). They ALL either had a vet or went and signed one to allow the young guy to develop.

Ponder...McNabb

Gabbert...Garrard

Locker....Hasselbeck

We have virtually no other choice but to start Cam.

I don't think we failed to get a veteran to come in, we purposely signed Anderson because he no chance to unseat Newton. What you think is no other option but to start Newton, was a clear plan to start him anyway, no matter what. We were going to live and die by him from the start and that hasn't changed. He is our guy for better or worse. I only hope it gets better pretty quickly.

[Jrock88]

one of the youngest teams in the league learning a new offense and defense, losing the battles at the line of scrimmage. Has anyone mentioned our terrible secondary? Though, admittedly, we have to wait for the opener at Arizona for a true assessment.

[MadHatter]

I don't think we failed to get a veteran to come in, we purposely signed Anderson because he no chance to unseat Newton. What you think is no other option but to start Newton, was a clear plan to start him anyway, no matter what. We were going to live and die by him from the start and that hasn't changed. He is our guy for better or worse. I only hope it gets better pretty quickly.

I agree 100% that it was their intention to start Newton from the beginning.

What I said is that by taking the path they have, they have left themselves with basically no other option should Cam continue to struggle.

I am concerned about a QB needing work on his mechanics being thrust into the starting position on a mediocre team. He will continue to be under tremendous pressure. I don't like his chances of improving his footwork, throwing mechanics, etc during the game. He will be running for his life too often.

I still would prefer DA to start for 6-7 games....let Cam continue to work on his mechanics with the coaches...then turn the team over to him about mid way through the season. This strategy is exactly what Tampa did with Freeman.

[carpanfan96]

Love the excuses....

It is the OLines fault

It is Smitty's fault

It is the coaches fault

It is everyone's fault but Cam Newton's.

Face it. Cam Newton is EXACTLY what his critics said he was. A great athlete....a cannon for an arm....a weapon with his legs....but a major project in the passing game.

It is NOT a bashing of Cam. It is merely an acceptance as to where he is in his development as an NFL QB. He is a project. He is getting better.....but still has a LONG way to go. He has tremendous potential....but is nowhere near ready to start.

However, we backed ourselves into the corner. We have Clausen (who is not better than Cam at this stage at best) and a vet who has struggled for several years and is not a legitimate starter in this league.

We would have been MUCH better off doing exactly what every other team who took one of these over-rated QB's in this dfraft (except for Cinncinnati). They ALL either had a vet or went and signed one to allow the young guy to develop.

Ponder...McNabb

Gabbert...Garrard

Locker....Hasselbeck

We have virtually no other choice but to start Cam.

Cam has issues, I know this and I believe most people see this. He's working on them though and is working his ass off it seems. He still throws off his backfoot, he still inconsistent shifting his weight on throws......

With that being said it's hard to be accurate when Macky B is standing on your QB's feet and being pushed backed into him not but 2 seconds after the ball's been snapped.

I mean it's absolutely horrible how badly he's been getting man handled. There isn't a QB in this league that could throw accurately with that kind of protection.

I said it last season when the Oline played like garbage and I'll say it again this season. It doesn't matter who's the QB if he's being rushed and only has 2 seconds to make a decision to run for his life or chuck the ball up 65 % of the time.

Yes the online has been that bad and no one can say it hasn't been that bad.