Cam is ready

[Panthro]

Can you believe they make jerseys with elastic

[footballisasport]

It's okay for Cam to have the same problems as Jimmy and not get poo on because criticizing Cam makes you a racist/hater/some other insult to attack your character as opposed to actually addressing the valid concerns presented.

How many TDs has Cam thrown so far this preseason?

Oh wait, he hasn't.

But its cool, growing pains. Not like the team went through that last season, or that the oline is in no way responsible for Cam completely missing receivers.

I wasn't aware that it was perfectly okay to more or less forfeit the season after being the worst team in the league. Get the fug out of here with that. Why is it okay to lose this season? We already dealt with that ignorant garbage last season when people were betting their kids' college savings on Luck.

Cam is a Panther and I am going to cheer for him as loud as I can, but to sit here and pretend that he has performed well or at the very least satisfactorily is about as stupid as any post made by KT.

He is performing as well as many of the top ranked rookie QBs. If I'm not mistaken, last year it took Jimmy awhile to gain a TD ithe regular game but he was called "IMPRESSIVE" and praised for his college talent, during his preseason game even thou he was collecting interceptions very early and no TDs for awhile.

It's funny that everything Cam has done in collega is underminded and told isn't good enough by those who want to see him fail. Cam cannot do anything perfect enough for those who don't care for him for whatever reason. He can go out and throw lights out and make 5 tds and I can bet someone will start a tread finding something to harp over.

What I find so funny is the same folks who have already labeled Cam a "bust" are the ones sitting there over analyzing everything he isn't doing good enough in their eyes to defend their argument. Yet, they are the first to compare their favorites to Cam. If Cam is such a "bust" then why would u be comparing some who u feel is better to him? Ur going to compare someone u see as very talented to a failure? REALLY?

[pantherdad]

Cam is ready to start, take his lumps, and learn on the field.

Is he ready to be playing at the caliber a team needs out of there starter? No, no rookie is......some teams just hide it better when there OL and running game is doing what it should. Carolina has the talent when healthy for them to do what is needed.

Go Cam. If you can't be excited for a kid with his potential to start the learning process.......how can you be football fan. You can't just expect to watch a playoff team year in and year out. All teams go through periods of taking lumps. This is what we signed up for when we drafted him.....gotta go through the process.

well, i haven't seen the pats or steelers take too many lumps, even without their starting qb's

[footballisasport]

I agree 100%

only thing I would add it - Dalton's success was all attributed to their run game and the fact his team prevented Carolina from allowing any type of pressure being put on him when he did throw. Cam mechanics looks night and day when there is no pressure vs pressure.

:nopity: Then he just needs to get accustom to the pressure without having his confidence broken like Jimmy did. That should come with experience.

[jtm]

I agree 100%

only thing I would add it - Dalton's success was all attributed to their run game and the fact his team prevented Carolina from allowing any type of pressure being put on him when he did throw. Cam mechanics looks night and day when there is no pressure vs pressure.

Well said.

People need to realize that we will still be a run first team. I don't care who you put under center, this team will not win games if we can't run the ball. It isn't fair to expect a rookie QB to perform miracles when a vet wouldn't do any better if we can't establish the run. One huge advantage over Cam v. Clausen is the fact that he doesn't have the deer in the headlights look that Clausen and Moore had last year. You can't teach this.

[jtm]

:nopity: Then he just needs to get accustom to the pressure without having his confidence broken like Jimmy did. That should come with experience.

I think he is use to the pressure. However, now he just can't run over people as easily. I think his issues are all about footwork. This should be an easy fix for someone as athletic as Cam, but it will take time. In the meantime, everyone sit back, relax, and enjoy.

[Marguide]

After going back and reviewing the game (at least the first half), Cam's biggest problem is he is holding on to the ball too long. This allows defenders to catch up to the receivers, and makes an o-line collapse more likely. I think Shula has been emphasizing scanning the field, and on some plays, Cam waits forever looking for that one big play downfield.

Dalton, on the other hand, got rid of the ball very quickly, with much better results.

For now, give Cam a couple of reads, and if they aren't open, let him take off. Maybe have one be a mid-range option, and the other to be something short. His completion ratio will go up, his confidence will increase, and it will help open up the rest of the offense.

[teeray]

After going back and reviewing the game (at least the first half), Cam's biggest problem is he is holding on to the ball too long. This allows defenders to catch up to the receivers, and makes an o-line collapse more likely. I think Shula has been emphasizing scanning the field, and on some plays, Cam waits forever looking for that one big play downfield.

Dalton, on the other hand, got rid of the ball very quickly, with much better results.

For now, give Cam a couple of reads, and if they aren't open, let him take off. Maybe have one be a mid-range option, and the other to be something short. His completion ratio will go up, his confidence will increase, and it will help open up the rest of the offense.

I hope you don't take half the flack I did yesterday for saying the same thing :lol:

[Icege]

Argument is invalid. Jimmy had a year. Cam has had 6qtrs in preaseason

On the contrary:

Cam thus far is 21/52 275yds.

Clausen last year was 21/42 231yds.

Adding preseason game 1 this year to give Clausen as many attempts he is 25/49 300yds with a passing TD.

Cam hasn't thrown a pick thus far (compared to Clausen's 3 (2 last preseason)), and he definitely takes more shots downfield. My issue is with his accuracy. Both have played w/o Otah behind suspect olines.

Clausen also was in Davidson's system with 3 rookie WR (one of who was a college qb), Dwayne Jarrett, Kinger, and Rosario.

Do I think Cam has a higher ceiling than Jimmy? You bet. However, he hasnt done enough imo to take the starting job. The QB needs to be accurate and let's be honest: he hasn't been. He has had 23 more attempts than jimmy this preseason and has only made 6 more completions. He has had no picks and 102 more passing yards which is great but he's also got a Hell of a lot more incompletions.

The worst part about the entire situation is regardless of the decision it feels as if we are damned if we do, damned if we don't.

[Snake]

TBH Payton Manning had one of the crappiest lines his first year but seemed to pull them together and make it work. That will be Cams job this year or he will be David Carr...

[jtnc]

TBH Payton Manning had one of the crappiest lines his first year but seemed to pull them together and make it work. That will be Cams job this year or he will be David Carr...

Peyton Manning threw the most interceptions for a rookie. Learn your poo.

[Cat'sGrowl]

I hope you don't take half the flack I did yesterday for saying the same thing :lol:

He should, because it's just as stupid now as it was then.

Cam made some mistakes Thursday. Holding onto the ball wasn't one of them.

Not even close. You're better than that, teeray.

[Marguide]

He should, because it's just as stupid now as it was then.

Cam made some mistakes Thursday. Holding onto the ball wasn't one of them.

Not even close. You're better than that, teeray.

I challenge you to go back and look at the first half, and I think you will see what Teeray is talking about.

Hey, it's not a knock on Cam's abilities, he is still just learning.

Given a choice between someone who wants to go downfield too much and someone who wants to go short too much, I'll take the former everytime.

[TheRealDeal]

Peyton Manning threw the most interceptions for a rookie. Learn your poo.

He also threw 26 TDs and 3800 yards.

Learn your poo