You want to know what is really sad??

[Carolina Fan]

Who cares about brown, i just want greg hardy in there he is such a beast

[jpniner]

The real problem is the GM...trading away picks for guys like E. Brown. Armanti Edwards...this guy would have been on the board in the later rounds...that 2nd round pick is coming back to haunt us...hell Bowers fell to the Bucs in the 2nd round...couldve drafted a Newton and Bowers in the same draft?!?!?!?!? What?!?! Thanks mr. GM

don't forget about the bad signings and head-in-sand approach with Delhomme.

The Panthers are were they are thanks mostly to Hurney.....the QB/Delhomme debacle set us back 5yrs by itself.

Hurney can't draft a #2 WR for anything: Colbert, Jarrett both wasted 2nd round picks

The Armanti trade will never be worth it unless he turns into an elite WR, the #33 pick really hurts us. We could have a stud DT right not, instead we have Armanti

The contract he gave to Gross, Johnson, Kahlil will limit us on drafting more quality players on the DL were we desperately need help.

[Vampire the buffet slayer]

I agree. I hated the pick (esp. giving up a first for him). He doesn't have the body or power to play the position & it has always showed. He can't even rush the passer, but in run support he looks aweful.

I was high on Rivera, but with some of the things he is doing, I am getting nervous that he will look like a rookie head coach rather than a vet defensive guru.

To 'Vampire the buffet slayer': WTF?! Why all of the hate? This is actually a good topic regarding the state of our beloved Panthers/roster.

Sorry dude but a thread dedicated to this guy finally coming to terms with the fact E. Brown was an awful pick is like someone starting a thread titled , " hey I dont think clausens that good". I mean yeah, I get it, Brown is not that good, but I think it was well covered in Fizs' letter to E.Brown. That coulped with the fact he came at me with some BS on his poetry thread led to the "hate".;)

[Vampire the buffet slayer]

Because he is a tool. They troll around and say this thread is gay and blah blah blah...

[ckad79]

If we weren't so stacked at LB, I'd say try to move him there.

Rather, I think the only option is to try and trade him for a low round pick, and if that isn't succesful-cut him loose when the time is right. It may not be this season, but after.

I agree. Obviously, he isn't working where he is. We need to move him around and see if he fits better somewhere else and if he doesn't fit anywhere, he needs to get cut.

[Carl Spackler]

I'd say it's sad that we've given up more yards in the first half of the last two games than we've gotten in the entire games themselves.

[SnarkAttack]

The real problem is the GM...trading away picks for guys like E. Brown. Armanti Edwards...this guy would have been on the board in the later rounds...that 2nd round pick is coming back to haunt us...hell Bowers fell to the Bucs in the 2nd round...couldve drafted a Newton and Bowers in the same draft?!?!?!?!? What?!?! Thanks mr. GM

Dude I hate when people definitively say a player would have been available later in the draft. Do you not think front offices do research? Obviously, they have reason to believe they need to move up in order to get a player. I'm fairly sure Hurney and Co. know a little more than the people on this board about what other teams are going to do in the draft. As for Bowers, the dude has not played one regular season game, so you have no idea how his skills translate.

[bleys]

side note,

Deangelo Hall would be a huge upgrade on our defense..

[IplayedCam#1317]

Brown :( why didnt we take DeSean Jackson instead

[jasonluckydog]

You could also say man we should of drafted Aaron Rodgers instead of Thomas Davis.

[Highlandfire]

Everett Brown was getting manhandled by a pass catching TE ( Jermaine Gresham) I rewatched the d in the first half play by play and it is unfuging believeable.

Seriously I have never been a Brown hater but after seeing him consistently get turned and pushed back by a pass catching TE...:eek: Rivera will see this and he will never touch the field outside of 3rd down again. Scratch that he should be cut. I finally have to agree with everybody.

The guy is an outside backer in a 3-4. Trade his ass to someone that runs the 3-4 and lets move on

[DRubi15]

Dude I hate when people definitively say a player would have been available later in the draft. Do you not think front offices do research? Obviously, they have reason to believe they need to move up in order to get a player. I'm fairly sure Hurney and Co. know a little more than the people on this board about what other teams are going to do in the draft. As for Bowers, the dude has not played one regular season game, so you have no idea how his skills translate.

No reason to move up and trade away high round picks for players who will be role players in their careers. Armanti is a great athlete no doubt. But I disagree with trading away a 2nd round pick for an undersized D-1AA quarterback and changing his position. Bowers was my example of a player that could've have been picked...but the pick had been traded. Panthers are a team that relies heavily on the draft. Can't make bad choices...can't afford it.

[rfn]

well let's see if Hurney can get two head coaches fired and still keep his own job before we say he is a dumb a-hole.

[God]

brilliant pick by Hurney