6/19 75 yards....

[King Taharqa]

I am only holding him to the standard of having average footwork and completing more passes than 30%. I don't think that is a high standard.

He doesn't look ready to start in the NFL, forcing him to do so is going to hurt his career.

So start Clausen for a week or two, he gets concussed AGAIN. Then what? You believe Clausen can last 16 weeks in this league?

[Varking]

Stafford > Luck

Luck will still be a rookie and struggle like every other QB to come in this league. You guys are gonna ruin Luck putting this kind of pressure on him to live up to fantasy and make believe. He's not built like you guys are portraying him.

Stafford wasn't poo in college either. People fell in love with his arm strength and that was a rap. I saw some of the potential but nothing special. Luck has it all. Back on Stafford though, his completion % was in the 50s twice in college and at 61 during his best year. That isn't all that impressive for college. Luck's completion % last season was in the 70s. Not to mention its easier to get football talent to UGA than it is to Stanford.

[King Taharqa]

Luck played in the Pac-10, Stafford played in the SEC. That makes a HUGE difference.

Stafford was also hyped as a "once in a generation" QB much like some are doing with Luck now. He was a "no brainer" for the #1 overall pick to the Lions, are you admitting many of these QBs that come out (like Luck) are media creations that are overhyped?

Its easy to look great when you play teams that dont have good defenses. Luck is already overrated so he's got a lot of work to do to live up to his hype.

[ncbobcat]

+1

I completely agree. The road is paved with failed and ruined QB's that had their confidence shaken by being thrown in too soon on bad teams. If we are serious about Cam being our future franchise QB, why would we want to put him in a situation where he can only fail?

Cam has only known success, how will he accept failure? Face it, we ARE going to have a losing season. How is the rookie going to handle that? His pictuesque smile hasn't not been flashing as much lately and these games don't even count. Just food for thought.

[Cat]

I'm not as worried about the defense. Beason is the undisputed leader, once he is back in there it will pick up a great deal.

The dline has me seriously worried.

I'm hoping on offense we get Schwartz and Otah back and the line plays better which helps the QB play better.

[Guild]

How many quick slants were called last night?

Yesterday was practice.

[Punisher]

Clausen would have gotten sacked 5 times last night.

[CRA]

I am only holding him to the standard of having average footwork and completing more passes than 30%. I don't think that is a high standard.

He doesn't look ready to start in the NFL, forcing him to do so is going to hurt his career.

Cam will never show good mechanics or a respectable comp % this year behind the OL play we saw last night.......

You want decent footwork and decent throws....give him the protection and ground attack Dalton got last night.

[kungfoodude]

Cam has only known success, how will he accept failure? Face it, we ARE going to have a losing season. How is the rookie going to handle that? His pictuesque smile hasn't not been flashing as much lately and these games don't even count. Just food for thought.

I agree wholeheartedly. In his stint at JC and at Allbarn, they only knew success. It's obviously always great to have a guy with success in his past but it's scary when things are going to poorly. I don't want to destroy his confidence.

[Proudiddy]

Nice try, but you fail on a few levels:

1. freemen did not start until midway through the season...and that time on the bench probably helped him

2. we really don't know how he turned out. he has had one good season. eeeven da had a good season. need to have more time to know whether he is a one hit wonder or a legit top qb. i am betting it is the latter, but there are qb's that show it could be the former.

if i had to chose between clausen or cam, i would go with cam. but i still think da would be a better option for several reasons.

1. starting da would allow cam to develop in preactice

2. even his worst play is better than what cam has shown us

just my opinion

I can totally understand letting him sit a few weeks before he starts. But then again, he seems to shake bad plays off fairly quickly and even when the pocket collapses he is showing the awareness and football intelligence to either find a place to throw it or take off and make something happen. So, I'm not too concerned about him getting shellshocked long-term if he starts the season.

And if anyone else does start, I would prefer it be Anderson... As bad as he looked the last few years, he's still way ahead of Jimmy in not folding when he gets pressured.

I'm just of the mind that Cam will be fine even if he starts the season and see a lot of parallels with Freeman. And I think those stats from Freeman's rookie preseason show that Cam isn't doing as bad as people think, especially considering he's doing a lot of it against starting defenses whereas Freeman wasn't.

I still think we should've re-signed Moore and I would've loved to let him start and let Cam ease his way into being the starter after a few weeks. But, I think Cam is our best option if we're trying to win games and I don't think it will hurt his development long-term either.

[Mother Grabber]

I would think the coaches wanted him targeting WR's more than TE's this game for practice. We know he can hit Olsen

He hit a wide open Williams right in the feet...

[Proudiddy]

Cam has only known success, how will he accept failure? Face it, we ARE going to have a losing season. How is the rookie going to handle that? His pictuesque smile hasn't not been flashing as much lately and these games don't even count. Just food for thought.

I'd say the fact that he worked his way back up from being kicked out of Florida, to going to JUCO, and then leading a team out of the SEC to a National Championship is testament to how he handles failure. And he seemed to have grown from it.

[rainwater]

Here's a fun question... what would be happening on this board right now if Jimmy played 3 quarters and completed only 31% of his passes?

Jimmy wouldn't have a game like that. He would complete more than 50% for about 3 yards a completion. He would have had at least one INT and about 4 3 and outs. Pick your poison.

[MadHatter]

Luck played in the Pac-10, Stafford played in the SEC. That makes a HUGE difference.

Stafford was also hyped as a "once in a generation" QB much like some are doing with Luck now. He was a "no brainer" for the #1 overall pick to the Lions, are you admitting many of these QBs that come out (like Luck) are media creations that are overhyped?

Its easy to look great when you play teams that dont have good defenses. Luck is already overrated so he's got a lot of work to do to live up to his hype.

Check his stats.

Stafford is a damn good QB when he can stay on the field. Stafford's issue is not performance....it is beign injury prone.