6/19 75 yards....

[CRA]

Rivers and Rodgers are two great examples of QB's who sat a couple of years and had time to adjust to the speed of the NFL and the work that it took to be a top notch QB. Not to mention those guys were MUCH better prepared for an NFL offense than Cam Newton already. I am, and have always been, of the opinion that the majority of rookie QB's need some bench time before they get thrown in there. ESPECIALLY on bad teams, which we are. I just don't see that payoff of "letting him learn" out there while playing with no receivers, no blocking and no running game.

they sat b/c there were better options than playing them as rookies.....signifantly better options. That's what it always comes down to. Matt Ryan would have sat if he was in there spots as well.

[Zod]

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/32523091/ns/sports-nfl/

Start Culpepper! Stafford looked abysmal in his 2nd preseason start. 5-13 34 yards, and an INT on the FIRST PLAY of the game. But hey, lets hold this years #1 draft pick to a higher standard. Guarantee if Luck was here, the response would be so different.

Yeah, he looks terrible too. And even he completely more than 30% of his passes. Cam was lucky one of his ducks last night were not picked off, they came close.

I feel Cam has it in him to be a future pro bowler, but its just too much too soon for him right now.

[ncbobcat]

Good perspective, but a lot of people look really unpolished when they have 3 guys closing in on them from every direction within 2 seconds of snapping the ball.

I'm also wondering what's going on with Kalil and the Gs... The middle was getting pushed back quicker than guys were running past Gross most of the game last night.

Manning could also move the chains and throw TDs. I'll take picks as long as offense can move the ball and put points on the board--TDs, not FGs.

[kungfoodude]

they sat b/c there were better options than playing them as rookies.....signifantly better options. That's what it always comes down to. Matt Ryan would have sat if he was in there spots as well.

I agree we don't have much better options but maybe that is something we should have considered when we were making our offseason signings. It's not like there were not good or serviceable QB's to be had.

I was screaming all offseason(although not on here) for us to sign a good veteran QB for Cam to learn from and sit behind.

[TheGreatestOfAllTimeCam]

Cam lovers..."someone else's fault"

Cam haters..."he sucks"

I'm a Cam nut hugger and I think he sucks

[Proudiddy]

Aaron Rodgers says look at my ring.

Point was, Favre made a hall of fame career by throwing unorthodox, quirky, and recklessly... how many of his highlights show him throwing off his backfoot? A lot.

Not saying I want Cam to be Favre-like because as good as he was, Favre's tendency to gamble and throw INTs at horrible times cost them a lot of games and had to piss people off.

That's one thing Cam already has in his backpocket is that he's not making big mistakes or playing reckless and turning the ball over. He's making good decisions, he just needs to work on some things as he practices and plays IMO. It'll come to him.

(SN: And Favre had a ring before Rodgers, but I get what you were saying, lol)

[King Taharqa]

Yeah, he looks terrible too. And even he completely more than 30% of his passes. Cam was lucky one of his ducks last night were not picked off, they came close.

Close only counts in horse shoes. He hasnt thrown a pick and he's performing on par wit the recent #1 overall drafted QBs. And he's performing better than the other QBs on staff. Thats enough for me at this point and it looks like its enough for coaches. Stafford also struggled his entire rookie season but came back with a better effort in year 2. Cameron is always gonna be held to a higher standard because of his identity and the type of QB he is, I get that, but lets at least let the guy get some regular season starts in before we jump to conclusions about who is ready and who aint.

[kungfoodude]

Stafford also came from a pro-style offense at Georgia.

[Varking]

Oh fug off. Why is this kid untouchable in the eyes of certain posters?

He locked on to Smith. Just like rookie QBs tend to do. He then threw inaccurate passes to Smith (amongst others).

Why when Clausen does this is it his fault, but when Newton does this it's the game plan, or the O-line not giving him enough time, or the WRs being crap?

fuging ridiculous.

Here is somebody jumping to conclusions. I am a Clausen backer. Just look at my post history. I thought he was an excellent pick. By no means am I a Newton homer. Last year the o-line sucked. This year it doesn't look much better. At least Newton can make something happen with his feet and hasn't turned the ball over yet.

You haven't read me one time bash Clausen since we picked him. So don't jump around claiming that one or the other is untouchable to me. As you say.. fug off and good day m'am.

[Zod]

I am only holding him to the standard of having average footwork and completing more passes than 30%. I don't think that is a high standard.

He doesn't look ready to start in the NFL, forcing him to do so is going to hurt his career.

[MadHatter]

Josh Freeman threw a 37.5 comp. % and a 41.2 % in the last two PS games of his rookie year. Both games he threw over 15 times he threw his lowest completion % of the preseason. Also of note, only the 41.2% game was the one he started and it was the final PS game of the year, most likely against the other teams' scrubs.

So, keep it in perspective guys. How'd he turn out?

Nice try, but you fail on a few levels:

1. freemen did not start until midway through the season...and that time on the bench probably helped him

2. we really don't know how he turned out. he has had one good season. eeeven da had a good season. need to have more time to know whether he is a one hit wonder or a legit top qb. i am betting it is the latter, but there are qb's that show it could be the former.

if i had to chose between clausen or cam, i would go with cam. but i still think da would be a better option for several reasons.

1. starting da would allow cam to develop in preactice

2. even his worst play is better than what cam has shown us

just my opinion

[ncbobcat]

Point was, Favre made a hall of fame career by throwing unorthodox, quirky, and recklessly... how many of his highlights show him throwing off his backfoot? A lot.

Not saying I want Cam to be Favre-like because as good as he was, Favre's tendency to gamble and throw INTs at horrible times cost them a lot of games and had to piss people off.

That's one thing Cam already has in his backpocket is that he's not making big mistakes or playing reckless and turning the ball over. He's making good decisions, he just needs to work on some things as he practices and plays IMO. It'll come to him.

(SN: And Favre had a ring before Rodgers, but I get what you were saying, lol)

Cool. Sitting and learning for rookie QBs isn't he worst thing in the world. Hurney screwed up by, once deciding on drafting Cam, not having plan 'B' if his development was slower than expected. That's why I'm so pissed.

[nosuchthingasapanther]

brett favre was an anomaly, and shouldn't be used in any type of comparison.

[kungfoodude]

I am only holding him to the standard of having average footwork and completing more passes than 30%. I don't think that is a high standard.

He doesn't look ready to start in the NFL, forcing him to do so is going to hurt his career.

+1

I completely agree. The road is paved with failed and ruined QB's that had their confidence shaken by being thrown in too soon on bad teams. If we are serious about Cam being our future franchise QB, why would we want to put him in a situation where he can only fail?