If the OLine is so bad...

[Urrymonster]

...why would you potentially damage your #1 pick? Much like Clausen, Carr and a whole host of high potential QBs before him, Newton is in danger of getting hit so frequently that it's going to affect his development. We have already seen him start to rush throws and decisions, this is NOt what he needs due to needing work on his footwork. If it continues, you are going to see a lot more running and a lot less progress as a QB.

If you had the choice of letting him sit and bed in genuine technique, but having lesser QB play, would you do it?

From my point of view he needs significant time on the sideline, allowing him to practice over and over proper footwork and technique, making it become instinctive. At least then he does have that AND decision making flying around in his head whilst trying to do his job.

Personally I believe we have the luxury of having another QB on the roster who can chuck the pigskin somewhat more consistently, so having Cam in really won't have a benefit beyond his running ability.

[Double34Trouble28]

Either Newton plays and can run away and gain a few yards OR Jimmy Clausen literally dies on a football field this season. Take your pick.

[Urrymonster]

I would rather let the QB who is supposed to be our future learn from the sidelines.

He is supposed to be our future, people need to stop being blinded by the present.

[pantherj]

...why would you potentially damage your #1 pick? Much like Clausen, Carr and a whole host of high potential QBs before him, Newton is in danger of getting hit so frequently that it's going to affect his development. We have already seen him start to rush throws and decisions, this is NOt what he needs due to needing work on his footwork. If it continues, you are going to see a lot more running and a lot less progress as a QB.

If you had the choice of letting him sit and bed in genuine technique, but having lesser QB play, would you do it?

From my point of view he needs significant time on the sideline, allowing him to practice over and over proper footwork and technique, making it become instinctive. At least then he does have that AND decision making flying around in his head whilst trying to do his job.

Personally I believe we have the luxury of having another QB on the roster who can chuck the pigskin somewhat more consistently, so having Cam in really won't have a benefit beyond his running ability.

Not only will it hinder his developement, but he is in extreme danger every time he drops back to pass. With our current o-line, I would expect Cam, or any other of our QBs we choose to start, to have a major injury this season. I'm talking severe concussion, acl/mcl tear, knee sprain, shoulder injury, or hand injury. Our C/RG/RT combination is not working as far a pass blocking is concerned. If you look back over last season, Matt Moore was trying to throw deep, and he was getting murdered for his troubles. He was taking blows that lead me to believe that a major injury was right around the corner. Sure enough, season ending shoulder injury. The same thing would have happened to Jimmy imo, but he decided to become captain check down, so defenders didn't have enough time to get him. The only thing that might protect Cam this season is his massive size.

[Double34Trouble28]

I would rather let the QB who is supposed to be our future learn from the sidelines.

He is supposed to be our future, people need to stop being blinded by the present.

I understand what you are saying. There are good points for both arguments. I will be fine with whatever, because it is out of my control obviously. I just hope Otah and Schwartz get healthy soon and the line play improves.

Cam gives us the best chance to move the ball, but as you said, he will have to do a lot of it with his legs at this point due to the line's inability to block a soul. It will slow his progression as a passer. Catch 22.

[Urrymonster]

Not only will it hinder his developement, but he is in extreme danger every time he drops back to pass. With our current o-line, I would expect Cam, or any other of our QBs we choose to start, to have a major injury this season. I'm talking severe concussion, acl/mcl tear, knee sprain, shoulder injury, or hand injury. Our C/RG/RT combination is not working as far a pass blocking is concerned. If you look back over last season, Matt Moore was trying to throw deep, and he was getting murdered for his troubles. He was taking blows that lead me to believe that a major injury was right around the corner. Sure enough, season ending shoulder injury. The same thing would have happened to Jimmy imo, but he decided to become captain check down, so defenders didn't have enough time to get him. The only thing that might protect Cam this season is his massive size.

Son contrary to popular belief, Jimmy was actually adjusting to his situation and trying to remove as much of the pass rush as he could? Sounds like sensible play! It's true though, if our QB refuses to adjust and be prepared to take what the defence gives them, they are going to be on the floor.. A LOT

I understand what you are saying. There are good points for both arguments. I will be fine with whatever, because it is out of my control obviously. I just hope Otah and Schwartz get healthy soon and the line play improves.

Cam gives us the best chance to move the ball, but as you said, he will have to do a lot of it with his legs at this point due to the line's inability to block a soul. It will slow his progression as a passer. Catch 22.

Jimmy is as polished as he is going to get, Cam needs genuine work.

Jimmy and Cam move the chains just as well as each other at the moment.

Jimmy is not the future, Cam is.

Which do you expose to the live bullets?

Sure Cam might scramble for a few yards, but he certainly isn't going to make anyone fear his arm. Teams are going to start preparing for his running, because he definitely can't beat teams any other way.

Just out of interest, why does Cam give us the best chance to win? He's done significantly less, with more time than Jimmy has this pre-season... I believe Jimmy hadpicked up nearly twice as many 1st downs as Cam had up till last night...

[Double34Trouble28]

Son contrary to popular belief, Jimmy was actually adjusting to his situation and trying to remove as much of the pass rush as he could? Sounds like sensible play! It's true though, if our QB refuses to adjust and be prepared to take what the defence gives them, they are going to be on the floor.. A LOT

Jimmy is as polished as he is going to get, Cam needs genuine work.

Jimmy and Cam move the chains just as well as each other at the moment.

Jimmy is not the future, Cam is.

Which do you expose to the live bullets?

Sure Cam might scramble for a few yards, but he certainly isn't going to make anyone fear his arm. Teams are going to start preparing for his running, because he definitely can't beat teams any other way.

Just out of interest, why does Cam give us the best chance to win? He's done significantly less, with more time than Jimmy has this pre-season... I believe Jimmy hadpicked up nearly twice as many 1st downs as Cam had up till last night...

Significantly less? Doubtful. Jimmy would have to do something significant for there to be any chance of that being true. Neither has done well so far. Anyway you slice it, it's just not a good situation right now. Who is to say our line will continue to play this bad? Say one of our WRs steps up beside Smitty and can actually get open. Say Otah and Schwartz come back to the right side of the line. Then do you change your opinion and say start Cam?

[footballisasport]

Son contrary to popular belief, Jimmy was actually adjusting to his situation and trying to remove as much of the pass rush as he could? Sounds like sensible play! It's true though, if our QB refuses to adjust and be prepared to take what the defence gives them, they are going to be on the floor.. A LOT

Jimmy is as polished as he is going to get, Cam needs genuine work.Jimmy and Cam move the chains just as well as each other at the moment.

Jimmy is not the future, Cam is.

Which do you expose to the live bullets?

Sure Cam might scramble for a few yards, but he certainly isn't going to make anyone fear his arm. Teams are going to start preparing for his running, because he definitely can't beat teams any other way.

Just out of interest, why does Cam give us the best chance to win? He's done significantly less, with more time than Jimmy has this pre-season... I believe Jimmy hadpicked up nearly twice as many 1st downs as Cam had up till last night...

So I guess Cam has to be perfect while jimmy just as to be accurate.

[unicar15]

I would rather let the QB who is supposed to be our future learn from the sidelines.

He is supposed to be our future, people need to stop being blinded by the present.

You don't have to learn from the sidelines. Teams did that in the past because they had a competent starter already there for the rookie to learn behind. That isn't the case here.

[Matthias]

The O-line definitely needs some help, but after watching last night's game, this wasn't all on the O-line. Last night, I saw Jordan Gross, Travelle Wharton, and Ryan Kalil all look like scared rookies. These are established guys, so why did they look so bad last night against a putrid Bengals team? It was the rookie QB to the max!!!!!!!!!

Cam is still learning how to run an offense, and at the same time he is basically learning how to be a QB in this league. He's worried about his accuracy, his footwork, yada yada yada. Yet the problem with that is he neglect the little things that makes an NFL QB. He neglects the hard count, which Dalton didn't neglect and kept our defnese on it's heels all night. Cam neglects audibles and calling blocking schemes. So how can we succeed with our O-line, when we don't have a competent NFL QB?

Put in Derek Anderson, and I guarantee you the O-line would improve over night. (Don't even mention Clausen. Not only is he essentially just as much a project as Cam, he also just plain suck)

[Smithers]

I would rather let the QB who is supposed to be our future learn from the sidelines.

He is supposed to be our future, people need to stop being blinded by the present.

Learning from the sidelines is so overrated. Plenty of great quarterbacks learned on the fly, such as Manning, Favre, Aikman, etc. If the O-line is as bad as it has looked, Cam is the obvious choice to start as he can extend plays. A QB who runs for 5, 10 or more yards is better than Jimmy, who will force a throw for an INT.

[Hairless Cat]

Start weinke!

[Snake]

Anderson is my pick to start. Its not really fair to stick Jimmy or Cam out there with this line.

[Urrymonster]

So I guess Cam has to be perfect while jimmy just as to be accurate.

You don't have to learn from the sidelines. Teams did that in the past because they had a competent starter already there for the rookie to learn behind. That isn't the case here.

Learning from the sidelines is so overrated. Plenty of great quarterbacks learned on the fly, such as Manning, Favre, Aikman, etc. If the O-line is as bad as it has looked, Cam is the obvious choice to start as he can extend plays. A QB who runs for 5, 10 or more yards is better than Jimmy, who will force a throw for an INT.

I think you guys are missing the point here. 'Learning from the sidelines' is outdated IF there isn't signifcant work being done on technique. For Cam there is.

If it's adjusting to the speed of the game, or decision making, it makes no difference as they have to learn it sooner or later.

Cam is different to a lot of QBs because technically, he needs work. Let him have 6 months-12 months of work in practice bedding it in so it's instinctive. If you throw him in now, there is the danger that he relies on his instincts and then never really gets the footwork down to be a consistent passer.