Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

What does Cam have to do

Panthro

By Panthro,
in Carolina Panthers

Recommended Posts

rayzor Grand Master

rayzor

Posted
Posted

Brett Favre, Kurt Warner, and Drew Brees would like to thank the Falcons, *no team*, and the Chargers respectively for their Super Bowls and HOF careers.
guys like that are foating around every where...every year.

right...

they are anomalies. teams that are serious about improving at QB draft them in the first. that is the best place to find them. it isn't 100%, but you are much more likely to find one there than you will wandering around FA or late in the draft.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
ncbobcat Newbie

ncbobcat

Posted
Posted

lots of good QBs have been INT prone even well into their career and they weren't run out of town. i'm sure it has been frustrating for their teams, but it has been accepted as well.

as far as rookie QBs go, don't forget that while peyton threw 26 TDs, he also threw 28 INTs. troy aikman threw only 9 TDs but 18 INTs his rookie year.

you just can't judge success on the TD:INT ratio for rookies anymore than you can for them at any stage of their career, really.

i found this that is a little interesting, imo.

Starting-Rookie-QB-Stats.gif

the ones in red helped their teams get to the playoffs that year. some had positive ratios and some not so much.

anyone expecting a QB or any rookie to come in and play at the same level as a top vet is being unrealistic. just because they can't play right away at the top level doesn't mean that they should sit on the bench, though...esp. if there isn't someone distinctly better ahead of them. that's how fox ran things, but that isn't the best way to develop young players or grow a young team.

Interesting. There were some 1:1s on there or damn close. Some of them ending up being good and the others busts. I'm just curious how many years (assuming this will be a growing/learning year) will you allow Cam/Jimmy before they are hendering rather than helping the franchise?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Urrymonster Newbie

Urrymonster

Posted
Posted

guys like that are foating around every where...every year.

right...

they are anomalies. teams that are serious about improving at QB draft them in the first. that is the best place to find them. it isn't 100%, but you are much more likely to find one there than you will wandering around FA or late in the draft.

To be fair, Favre only had one year with the Falcons, so GB groomed him. Hardly fair to say that another team developed him and then let him hit free agency. So his list already down to two.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
TheRealDeal Newbie

TheRealDeal

Posted
Posted

Ih he just gets through it. Progresses. And keeps his confidence it will be a success.

People who think he needs to complete 70% of his passes and throw 27 tds or else he is a bust need to get their head examined.

he is a rookie. He will play rookielific.

The time for making up words was yesterday, we already submitted our request form.

A day late, dollar short...what else is new Teeray

Link to comment
Share on other sites
DC Amp Enthusiast

DC Amp

Posted
Posted

We all have great expectations but I want Cam to make us fans be glad that the Panther's drafted him number-1, show us that we have something to get excited about when Sunday comes around and to know the QB position is something we won't have to worry about filling for the next 10yrs or more. :cheers2:

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Urrymonster Newbie

Urrymonster

Posted
Posted

Interesting. There were some 1:1 on there. Some of them ending up being good and the others busts. I'm just curious how many years (assuming this will be a growing/learning year) will you allow Cam/Jimmy before they are hendering rather than helping the franchise?

Same logic can be applied to any single unproven player. You basically wouldn't have a team. In fact you are basically trying to play as the Redkins, picking up every somewhat proven player for big bucks.

On top of that find us one QB who was had in free agency after a team didn't want him (not the QB wanting away from them), that went on to the big and better.

You have mentioned Brees, who had a should injury that was reportedly going to significantly affect his throwing - turns out for the better... give us one more. Remember, he had to be proven - your rules not ours.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
ncbobcat Newbie

ncbobcat

Posted
Posted

guys like that are foating around every where...every year.

right...

they are anomalies. teams that are serious about improving at QB draft them in the first. that is the best place to find them. it isn't 100%, but you are much more likely to find one there than you will wandering around FA or late in the draft.

Top of the draft, yes, looking for franchise QBs with the Tom Brady's of the world being an anomaly too in later rounds.

We were at the top of the draft this year and rolled the dice. Cam may or may not work out. Nobody knows yet. However, for a team not picking in the top half of round one, FA QBs are not bad options. As you stated, some years are better than others, but I don't agree you necessarily have to build around a rookie QB.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
rayzor Grand Master

rayzor

Posted
Posted

Interesting. There were some 1:1s on there or damn close. Some of them ending up being good and the others busts. I'm just curious how many years (assuming this will be a growing/learning year) will you allow Cam/Jimmy before they are hendering rather than helping the franchise?

i said in that other thread that at the earliestmidway to 2/3 through the season to get an idea of what he is going to be or at least get a sense of it..mainly just as far as growth is concerned, but even with that it takes a couple years for any rookie to adjust and reach his potential if he's going to.

again like i said in the other thread, conventional wisdom says it takes 3 years to judge a draft pick. i would add longer if it's a true walsh/andy reid type WCO...which isn't the case here.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
rayzor Grand Master

rayzor

Posted
Posted

Top of the draft yes with the Tom Brady's of the world being an anomaly too.

We were at the top of the draft this year and rolled the dice. Cam may or may not work out. Nobody knows yet. However, for a team not picking in the top half of round one, FA QBs are not bad options. As you stated, some years are better than others, but I don't agree you necessarily have to build around a rookie QB.

you don't have to, but it's the easiest way to do it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
ncbobcat Newbie

ncbobcat

Posted
Posted

i said in that other thread that at the earliestmidway to 2/3 through the season to get an idea of what he is going to be or at least get a sense of it..mainly just as far as growth is concerned, but even with that it takes a couple years for any rookie to adjust and reach his potential if he's going to.

again like i said in the other thread, conventional wisdom says it takes 3 years to judge a draft pick. i would add longer if it's a true walsh/andy reid type WCO...which isn't the case here.

Okay, three years and that should be solid since this isn't a Walsh/Ried style WCO.

That was addressed to others too Rayzor. :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • tukafan21
      Updated 2025 draft order

      By tukafan21 · Posted

      I'm still not touching Hunter He again said the other day that he plans on playing both sides of the ball in the NFL.  If he is allowed to do that, he won't be as good on either side as his potential and he's going to have serious injury issues and have a short career.  If he's not allowed to do it, I think he's going to become a problem when the team isn't winning as he's going to feel him not being used on both sides of the ball is why. He's being coddled in that environment with Deion and I think it's doing a disservice to him to prepare him for life in the NFL where your coach isn't a 2nd father to you, to where you can just walk into his locker room and steal his shoes like Hunter does to Deion.
    • Bear Hands
      Real Mid-Season Development at QB: Bo Nix

      By Bear Hands · Posted

      He’s a tad behind them. Around 15ish of 32 starters in the league. He’s well ahead of a lot of guys. Tua, Bryce, Cousins (present), Rodgers (current), Devito/Jones, Minshew, Russ (current), Watson, Smith, Carr, T Laws deep ball is weak as poo IMO, there’s plenty. And it’s not like everyone is ripping 60+ers. The key component is if you can rip and maintain velocity of the 30-40 yarders which he does super well. Legit every report out there from Brugler to PFF to PFN document him as good/above average arm strength.  Eye test tells me it’s pretty much that as well, slightly above average.
    • CBDellinger
      Predictions for Brooks debut

      By CBDellinger · Posted

      6-10 carries for  35-45 yds and 3-5 catches for 15-25 would be great. 
×
×
  • Create New...