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What does Cam have to do

Panthro

By Panthro,
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rayzor Grand Master

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If wins are irrelevant, why the hell do they keep score? Who cares if he looks like Trent Dilfer, as long as he does his part to help us win games. This isn't a beauty contest.

I am looking forward to some of the responses in this thread. And hats off to Grits for having the balls to do so.

initially wins don't matter. they need to be there, but overall success as a rookie doesn't depend on them. there are far too many factors to consider. putting the team in a good position to win is more important. rallying us from behind is also more important.

given the youth/inexperience on this team and the newness of the system as well as the where the team was last year, the ceiling for wins is going to be kind of low. that has to be expected.

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Marguide Newbie

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So you all will be happy...err, satisfied with a 1:1 TD/INT ratio?

This is why I didn't want a rookie QB, deflated expectations based off perceived rookie limitations. Heck, I admit I'm at fault too. A veteran QB would be run out of town with a 1:1 TD/INT ratio or worse. Yet, we will 'accept' this with a rookie.

Christ, Peyton fuging Manning didn't have a 1 to 1 his rookie year. It is not deflating expectations, it is being realistic.

I would like to see it, but I don't expect to.

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Jangler Newbie

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initially wins don't matter. they need to be there, but overall success as a rookie doesn't depend on them. there are far too many factors to consider. putting the team in a good position to win is more important. rallying us from behind is also more important.

given the youth/inexperience on this team and the newness of the system as well as the where the team was last year, the ceiling for wins is going to be kind of low. that has to be expected.

Not comparing the two!

Troy Aikman started his rookie season but didn't finish, he and the team was terrible...

11 starts 0-11-0 52.9% 1749 9TD 18INT

If Cam can play as well...for a rookie. Superbowl win within 3 years!! :party:

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Some times I wonder where people like you expect veteran QBs come from.

They don't magically appear on your roster one day. They all start out as rookies..ALL of them. Trying to run your franchise by constantly trying to feed off of other teams castaways doesn't give you a very long window for success.

Players HAVE to be developed if you want a perennialy succesful franchise.

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CRA Grand Master

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So you all will be happy...err, satisfied with a 1:1 TD/INT ratio?

This is why I didn't want a rookie QB, deflated expectations based off perceived rookie limitations. Heck, I admit I'm at fault too. A veteran QB would be run out of town with a 1:1 TD/INT ratio or worse. Yet, we will 'accept' this with a rookie.

We went to a Superbowl with a QB who was close to a 1:1 TD/INT ratio.

The great QBs and very good QBs often had that ratio or one close to it when started as rookie....from Sanchez to Manning. The somewhat good to the great......how is that deflated expectations?

Just seems like some on the board want to apply unrealistic expectations to Cam and if he doesn't hit those then he sucks.

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Some times I wonder where people like you expect veteran QBs come from.

They don't magically appear on your roster one day. They all start out as rookies..ALL of them. Trying to run your franchise by constantly trying to feed off of other teams castaways doesn't give you a very long window for success.

Players HAVE to be developed if you want a perennialy succesful franchise.

no poo

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Cat'sGrowl Newbie

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We went to a Superbowl with a QB who was close to a 1:1 TD/INT ratio.

The great QBs and very good QBs often had that ratio or one close to it when started as rookie....from Sanchez to Manning. The somewhat good to the great......how is that deflated expectations?

Just seems like some on the board want to apply unrealistic expectations to Cam and if he doesn't hit those then he sucks.

No, no. You aren't understanding what he is saying. He didn't want a rookie QB, because he can't stand how they get a 'free pass' for playing like "crap."

He detests the notion of not holding a rookie to a Pro Bowler standard.

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