Rewind back to April

[rico6]

What game is better? How do you weight each of those things? Who is going to be the ultimate decider of who had the better game?

15/30 250 Yds, 1 TD 0 Int

or

14/19 50 Yds 1 TD 0 Int

Let's say this for example.

Cam goes 11/22 178 YDS , 1TD 1INT 87.1 QB Rating

Kolb goes 11/23 176 YDS , 1TD 0INT 88.9 QB Rating

Cam would have the higher passing percentage, More Yards.

Kolb would have the higher rating...

Cam wins in the overall bout.

It's rather simple.

[rico6]

Gotta go guys... I'll catch up later to the bet or PM me. Rico, pick you poison...I really don't care as long as it's not flemsy.

Okay.

[TheRealDeal]

Let's say this for example.

Cam goes 11/22 178 YDS , 1TD 1INT 87.1 QB Rating

Kolb goes 11/23 176 YDS , 1TD 0INT 88.9 QB Rating

Cam would have the higher passing percentage, More Yards.

Kolb would have the higher rating...

Cam wins in the overall bout.

It's rather simple.

Me thinks you don't know how QB rating is calculated

What else do you think goes into QB Rating besides Completions, attempts, Yards, TDs and INTs?

How would someone with less yards and a lower % get a higher rating?

In that scenario, Kolb would have 88.31 and Cam would have 92.61.

Get on my level

[rico6]

Me thinks you don't know how QB rating is calculated

What else do you think goes into QB Rating besides Completions, attempts, Yards, TDs and INTs?

How would someone with less yards and a lower % get a higher rating?

In that scenario, Kolb would have 88.31 and Cam would have 92.61.

Get on my level

Relax, noticed how I said "example" there were obviously no calculations on my part.

Whoever puts up the better numbers (in all categories) wins the bet.

Accept my terms or GTFO.

[TheRealDeal]

Just saying, if you knew what went into it you wouldn't use an example that wasn't possible.

Who makes the final call? Like I said, no way you admit Cam has a worse game unless you can't argue it.

Find me an example where the "stat line" would favor one player and the QB rating favors the other.

Here's a link to help

http://brucey.net/nflab/statistics/qb_rating.html

[rico6]

Just saying, if you knew what went into it you wouldn't use an example that wasn't possible.

Who makes the final call? Like I said, no way you admit Cam has a worse game unless you can't argue it.

Find me an example where the "stat line" would favor one player and the QB rating favors the other.

Here's a link to help

http://brucey.net/nflab/statistics/qb_rating.html

Go back to the Giants game, plug in Cams stats, and Perrilloux's

And you'll see what I mean.

[TheRealDeal]

Go back to the Giants game, plug in Cams stats, and Perrilloux's

And you'll see what I mean.

I don't see what you mean, the guy had a completion percentage 13% higher than Cams and threw for more YPA.

He didn't get as many attempts but 10/10 people will tell you a higher completion percentage AND higher YPA with equal TDs and INTs is a better game, every single time.

[mav1234]

Go back to the Giants game, plug in Cams stats, and Perrilloux's

And you'll see what I mean.

Just put a minimum attempts on it, because tbh Perrilloux's stats aren't worse than Cam's... his raw yardage was lower due to throwing half the balls Cam did but he had similar production but higher completion percentage, so I'm not surprised by that.

[TheRealDeal]

Higher Comp % and YPA

[rico6]

I don't see what you mean, the guy had a completion percentage 13% higher than Cams and threw for more YPA.

He didn't get as many attempts but 10/10 people will tell you a higher completion percentage AND higher YPA with equal TDs and INTs is a better game, every single time.

That's all well and good, but going by just their QB percentage. It would suggest that Perilloux had the better performance. Which is not true.

Which is why I'm going by a FULL statline.

You're over-thinking this.

Edit -- I agree Mav , a minimum # of passes will be the better gauge.

[TheRealDeal]

Perilloux did have the better performance

[TheRealDeal]

If they had equal attempts, Perilloux would have completed more passes for more yards.

You are focusing too much on the raw numbers, that is useless.

I just don't think you understand the game enough, it's not your fault.

[mj4life]

how about you guys use espn's new total qb rating system to determine the winner of you little wager

[TheRealDeal]

I don't have the wager, just trying to talk some common sense into Rico