Newton starter vs Bengals, Week 1 starter TBD

[AviationMX]

what about when you can have both guys on your team and the guy with the sound fundamentals can start while the guy who is still improving gets better while working with the coaches, film, practices, etc?

Very good point, but I think there's a value in getting the rookie in the game earlier in the season, there are only so many games...and there is the honeymoon the coaching staff/newton has when we will forgive some losses as long as we score more than our average from last season. Clausen will have to patient, I think we all expect either him or DA to step in from time to time...

[blackcatgrowl]

That guy was a little too much of a Cam homer for me.

His posts were just like Teeray and NCMonsters and that poo is annoying as hell.

I love it...

Cam has his first pro start in a preseason game, in which he actually improved slightly from his previous game, but because we lose TuRD is super-charged with troll power.

[CRA]

what about when you can have both guys on your team and the guy with the sound fundamentals can start while the guy who is still improving gets better while working with the coaches, film, practices, etc?

B/c the fundementally sound guy can't or won't make the throws required for the offense to move.

Being fundemantally sound in the short passing department for a team that relies on the vertical threat.....doesn't mean much. It means lots of 3 and outs.....the D staying on the field, the run game getting bottled up and us competing for the #1 spot again.

Clausen isn't fundementally sound....he is highly efficient w/ short throws.

[TheRealDeal]

B/c the fundementally sound guy can't or won't make the throws required for the offense to move.

Being fundemantally sound in the short passing department for a team that relies on the vertical threat.....doesn't mean much. It means lots of 3 and outs.....the D staying on the field, the run game getting bottled up and us competing for the #1 spot again.

Clausen isn't fundementally sound....he is highly efficient w/ short throws.

Which QB are you talking about there?

[CRA]

Which QB are you talking about there?

the one who has proven that is what occurs in 13 games and 10 NFL starts.......

not the one who has 2 preseason games to his entire NFL resume

[TheRealDeal]

Had me fooled

[CRA]

Had me fooled

Nah, you just are so deep into your Cam spin you no longer are willing to acknowledge reality.

you like to claim people force you into being the Cam troll you are....but you have simply choosen to embrace that and become that.

Cam has more first downs than Clausen in less drive attempts......but again that is something you probably know....and choose to ignore.

[Pantherxtreme]

I can agree with that. This board is split on whether or not Cam should necessarily start this year, but I think we all agree that he will definitely be the guy in the next couple years.

Everybody just needs to keep their opinions in check and realize that guys like TRD aren't ALWAYS hating, and while I may not agree with him a lot, I do understand that he does support Cam. He just may not support the decision of starting Cam this season (until production increases). And that is fine.

See, TRD. We can all get along.

It appears the same people who didn't want us to draft Cam in the 1st place are the most vocal in opposition of him being the starting QB at the start of the season, kind of funny how that worked out isn't it? :rolleyes:

[Peppers90 NC]

It appears the same people who didn't want us to draft Cam in the 1st place are the most vocal in opposition of him being the starting QB at the start of the season, kind of funny how that worked out isn't it? :rolleyes:

I didnt particularly want us to draft him, but I felt he should only be drafted if the coaches thought he is capable of starting this season. I only care about what the guys behind the scenes think, not anyone on this board.

[TheRealDeal]

It appears the same people who didn't want us to draft Cam in the 1st place are the most vocal in opposition of him being the starting QB at the start of the season, kind of funny how that worked out isn't it? :rolleyes:

He absolutely will start and I never had a doubt in my mind.

Should he is another question or topic completely.

Anyone who seriously thought he wasn't going to be handed the job needs to check in, immediately.

[CRA]

He absolutely will start and I never had a doubt in my mind.

Should he is another question or topic completely.

Anyone who seriously thought he wasn't going to be handed the job needs to check in, immediately.

if last years problem w/ Clausen was Fox and not simply his garbage style of play.....then I think Rivera would have loved to of started Cam after the bye and let the Cam era begin there.

Cam was going to be handed the keys regardless at some point this year.....he is only getting them week 1 b/c he is the on QB on the roster that provides a glimmer of hope this year in competitive play.

[TheRealDeal]

You can believe that if you want but you know that if Clausen started game one, the same fans that booed Jake, Carr, & Moore would boo him as soon as GB got up on us and would be calling for Cam.

No chance in hell Jimmy makes it to the bye. Cam was the starter the minute he was drafted, probably sooner.

[CRA]

You can believe that if you want but you know that if Clausen started game one, the same fans that booed Jake, Carr, & Moore would boo him as soon as GB got up on us and would be calling for Cam.

No chance in hell Jimmy makes it to the bye. Cam was the starter the minute he was drafted, probably sooner.

Clausen would have earned those boos b/c of his proven NFL play. Clausen doesn't get to put in the crap he did last year and expect clean slate.

you are right there is no way Clausen would make it to the bye....b/c he sucks in the type offense Chud is running. I don't think Rivera would have minded if Clausen was average and gave him up until the bye to start the Cam era. Unlike Cam....we know what Clausen can and can't do at this point.

[TheRealDeal]

Did Moore earn the boos with his proven play in the NFL in game 2 of his tenure?

Fans don't know poo and everyone knows they just want to see their shiny new toy on the field.

Clausen could go 100/100 100,000 yards, 100 TDs in the first 2 games but if we lose to AZ and are down to GB, you know he'll hear it.

They probably want to start Cam so they don't have to damage Clausen any more in case Cam gets hurt. If you start him for a game, bench him, then need to bring him back, it's hard to recover.

Clausen has made just as many downfield throws as Cam, so lets not pretend Cam is airing it our every play.