Newton starter vs Bengals, Week 1 starter TBD

[lightsout]

Really, what's the big deal in supporting your QB around these parts?

Must be the by-product of watching every QB we've ever brought burst in flames.

As long as Cam's flames resemble more of Human Torch and less of Jake Delhomme, I am fine with it.

[CRA]

they did run the ball with cam early... but when your quarterback isn't completing passes and the couple run plays you had don't go anywhere, you end up in 3rd and longs. Then you end up down, and once you're down...

they did run on the first couple drives and the offense still was ineffective, so I don't think that was really what was up.

Cam was in for 21 snaps....they ran on 3 of those. They weren't running the ball.

Cam had 11 1st and 2nd downs.....that would be qualified as running downs. So they ran on 27% of the running downs. They weren't trying to run Williams nor did they want to for a variety of reasons.

also....

Drive 1

1st play run

Newton pass for 1st down

then another run and they drive came up short.

So Newton at least picked of a first down on the drive they did 2 of there 3 run plays.

Drive 2

run

came up 1 yard short b/c Olsen did run his route to the 1st down marker....but Cam hit the pass.

So they ran on 2 drives....and Cam actually made some throws on those runs. Really got to fault Olsen on not getting that first the 2nd series.

but they weren't really trying to run.....and Cam wasn't the reason they weren't doing it. They didn't want to run Williams and they wanted Cam to pass.

[ItsPantone278]

Really, what's the big deal in supporting your QB around these parts?

Must be the by-product of watching every QB we've ever brought burst in flames.

But then how could you say "I told you so"? Seriously, if dude can play he will be the guy. If he isn't ready then it wasn't like we were going to the playoffs this year anyway. Let him sit and learn under Shula. Either way we got two young dudes who have some upside. Better than some other situations out there.

[koolkatluke]

I forgot how tough you were...

You didn't forget you just haven't seen it. But you'll stay your pretty self behind that keyboard and it will be ok.

[lightsout]

It's perfectly fine...I support Cam as the QB of the future.

When you blindly ignore every issue with him and think everyone who really watches his game and comments on it, positive and negative, has some sort of bias it gets annoying.

I can agree with that. This board is split on whether or not Cam should necessarily start this year, but I think we all agree that he will definitely be the guy in the next couple years.

Everybody just needs to keep their opinions in check and realize that guys like TRD aren't ALWAYS hating, and while I may not agree with him a lot, I do understand that he does support Cam. He just may not support the decision of starting Cam this season (until production increases). And that is fine.

See, TRD. We can all get along.

[footballisasport]

how many of you think you actually have any idea what TRD thinks of Cam?

I already know a good portion of you think I hate him, you probably think the same of TRD.

I don't think u hate Cam. One can really see the difference between someone like TRD and someone who just worries about everything being perfect.

[mav1234]

i like all the tough guy tags...

[TheRealDeal]

You didn't forget you just haven't seen it. But you'll stay your pretty self behind that keyboard and it will be ok.

I do agree that I am very good looking.

Raaaaaaaaaaawr.............super tough guy.

[koolkatluke]

If we would have had a starting caliber DT in there we would have been able to stop Miami running all over us AND we would have a starting caliber QB.

Thanks Hurney.

Who would have been our Starting Caliber QB?

[CRA]

Who would have been our Starting Caliber QB?

TRD forgets that most rookie DTs aren't ready to start 16 games and be good........

but he pretends they are it works for his arguement and the unknown vet QB to lead us to the playoffs.

[lightsout]

Who would have been our Starting Caliber QB?

I can agree with where you're going with that. Cam has looked, IMO, better than the other rookie QBs to this point. Sure, Mallet hasn't looked terrible, in fact, he's looked good; however, he's also playing for the fuging Patriots and has Tom fuging Brady to learn from. He should be playing great ball. Plus, Mallet isn't necessarily a model guy. Bit of a douche.

[TheRealDeal]

Who would have been our Starting Caliber QB?

You don't have to bold and underline things in a one sentence post.

There were a lot of options.

Our #1 pick of a QB hasn't looked better than anyone taken in the draft to this point and considering he's going to be our starter literally anyone in the NFL.

Jimmy is a good example of an upgrade over Cam, as sad as that is.

Tons of veterans out there that could start as well.

[koolkatluke]

I do agree that I am very good looking.

Raaaaaaaaaaawr.............super tough guy.

Raaaaaaaawr.................Internet prick.

[mav1234]

Cam was in for 21 snaps....they ran on 3 of those. They weren't running the ball.

There were 7 snaps in the first quarter that were on 1st or 2nd down and they ran on 3 of them (I think it was 7). They ran the ball. However, by the time we got the ball a third time, I think they wanted to see what Cam could do with his arm because running wasn't generating much in the way of yardage whereas Cam was actually getting positive yards with his arm. Plus, they probably wanted to see how he'd respond when he was down. They were loading the box and daring Cam to beat them, and he couldn't.

Some thing a lot of fans will have to realize is that Chuds was known for not running the ball very much with the Browns, and it's not like they had a bad back there.