Still disrespected...

[Rags]

1. 2-14 team

2. Unproven QB's (likely starting rookie)

3. New Coach

4. Totally new scheme

5. FA moves were re-signing our young talent

6. Shortened off season

Why does it surprise you that we are not getting respect?

You earn respect, it is not just given. We have done nothing yet to earn it.

Win on the field and things will change.

We'e also in a division wit 3 10-win teams.

Also have the leauge's toughest schedule.

[MadHatter]

We'e also in a division wit 3 10-win teams.

Also have the leauge's toughest schedule.

that too.

[HoFBound90]

that too.

Ya a lot working againest us, perhaps more then almost any team in nfl history. Thats why it will be all the more impressive when we win the SB:D

[Porn Shop Clerk]

You also have to consider that teams are gonna be looking past us, they won't know what to expect, and the Panthers and Rivera have something to prove.

[riddel]

Living 1000 miles away from Carolina I can tell you how most average NFL fans think about the Panthers.....much the way I think of Arizona.

Arizona had a great game against the Steelers in the Superbowl, but I have never considered them a good team and most of the time they are the bottom of their division. They can never establish an identity and I just don't believe they are any good. I could be dead wrong on this, but being an average NFL fan, I simply think Arizona is a average to below average team.

Many people look at Carolina the exact same way. They have had a couple good season and played in one of the most exciting Superbowls, but for the most part people think of Carolina as the bottom of the NFC South. It's just how it is.

I hate it, but the only thing that changes perception is winning the Superbowl. Until Carolina wins one, we will be considered a lower tier team.

[HoFBound90]

Living 1000 miles away from Carolina I can tell you how most average NFL fans think about the Panthers.....much the way I think of Arizona.

Arizona had a great game against the Steelers in the Superbowl, but I have never considered them a good team and most of the time they are the bottom of their division. They can never establish an identity and I just don't believe they are any good. I could be dead wrong on this, but being an average NFL fan, I simply think Arizona is a average to below average team.

Many people look at Carolina the exact same way. They have had a couple good season and played in one of the most exciting Superbowls, but for the most part people think of Carolina as the bottom of the NFC South. It's just how it is.

I hate it, but the only thing that changes perception is winning the Superbowl. Until Carolina wins one, we will be considered a lower tier team.

well said

[The Saltman]

Ya its idiocy to give a rats ass. until we are a consistent winner nobody will give a crap about us. Do you really think anybody gave a rats ass about the colts or the patriots before they started winning games every year?

[Porn Shop Clerk]

When was the last time they talked about Detroit?

[TheRealDeal]

Detroit could be the best team in the North when healthy

[The Saltman]

could be doesnt mean is.

they do get talked about more then the panthers lately but they have a good looking team no homo.

[Udogg]

Detroit could be the best team in the North when healthy

true

could be doesnt mean is.

they do get talked about more then the panthers lately but they have a good looking team no homo.

and true

[TheRealDeal]

I'll never bet against ARod, but I really like what they are doing there.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

They ain't, and nobody's talking about them either.

[Chaos]

I hear Detroit and St. Louis being mentioned as sleepers this preseason. Both have high expectations from their franchise QB's (if Stafford can stay healthy of couse). They also showed flashes towards the end of last season.

That's all these analysts have - what are the most recent accomplishments for non-playoff teams. Bradford looked great last year, no reason to think he can't be better this year in a piss-poor NFCW. Rams could easily win that division. Detroit won't win the North, but they have shown some improvement and have potential.