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So lets say Goodson fumbles a couple times tomorrow night...

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CRA Grand Master

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Still want to keep him? He is a dynamic player for sure, but at what cost?

Yes but Sutton jumps him on the depth chart.

With young QBs.....the mistakes made need to be limited b/c the QB will be making plenty.

in regards to the recent best 3rd QB hype......most teams aren't trying to built uber backfields. They are more concerned w/ having the best 3rd and 4th WR in the league.

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Goodson didn't fumble that much late last year when he was starting/getting a lotta touches. I'll chalk up last game and up to this game to early season jitters. If he's fumbling a bunch in the regular season, minimize his touches, but don't get rid of him. He's a later round pick and probably wouldn't fetch much in a trade. Keep him at least til the end of his rookie contract and if he's STILL fumbling after that, cut him loose.

Goodson fumbled three times in the last two games last year. Six on the season putting him in the top 10 of all NFL players for fumbles...and he didn't even play the entire season, so yeah I would say its a problem. Compare that to D-Will who's only had 6 fumbles his entire CAREER. The most fumbles Adrian Peterson (who is widely considered the most fumble prone man in America) has ever had in a season is 9, and AP touches the ball way more than Goody.

We know that Goody isn't on the level of Williams or AP but that makes his fumbles even more glaring. I don't want to get rid of him mainly because I don't like having talented players leave us and go light it up somewhere else. Keep working with it and hopefully he'll have a turn around, but at some point you have to evaluate the situation for what it is, is the chance of losing the ball on any given play worth a third string back/KR when we already have depth at RB and an emerging return corps?

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..for several reasons tomorrow Goodson will get a chance to shine. I see him getting targeted quite a bit out of the backfield in the third quarter while we lapse into the west coast offense a bit giving Jimmy a chance to show off. Two tight end sets against zone blitz d (probably) will be a great situation for JC but a byproduct of that will be Goodson a cahnce to show what he can do blitz pickup and YAC-wise.

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..for several reasons tomorrow Goodson will get a chance to shine. I see him getting targeted quite a bit out of the backfield in the third quarter while we lapse into the west coast offense a bit giving Jimmy a chance to show off. Two tight end sets against zone blitz d (probably) will be a great situation for JC but a byproduct of that will be Goodson a cahnce to show what he can do blitz pickup and YAC-wise.

Goodson + Clausen + 3rd down also spells disaster (double edge sword).....Jimmy has trouble if he even thinks there is pressure. Goodson is a swinging gate if asked to pass protect.

I also don't believe Carolina is attempting to "show off" Clausen.

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As a kickoff returner, the risk is much higher IMO. I know a fumble lost is a fumble lost, but on a kickoff, you're deep in the other team's territory, they likely just scored (hence the kickoff), and giving the ball back to them with that field position will lose the game for you, not just a possession.

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You definitely do not cut him. He has too much upside and many backs have corrected fumbling problems. However, many backs have not corrected fumbling problems as well. It is definitely a major concern and I don't see how you can play him in a real game until this is corrected.

I ran the numbers earlier this year based on Goodson's amount of touches last year and the amount of fumbles per carries was staggering. If memory serves me correct, it was around 1 fumble for every 10 touches.

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