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Jon Gruden thinks Terrelle Pryor may be better than Newton

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Pryor can't even throw the F'n ball. He is picked to be a 5 or 6 round pick in the supp. draft!!!! He sucks. You talk about J Russell 2.0. Here you go without the throwing ability.

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You do know the supp. Draft works alot diffrent than the regular draft don't you? The reason pryor is projected yo go 5-6 round is because, where ever you select someone in the supp. Draft you lose that pick in the 2012 draft. The thinking behind this is why draft one guy with red flags over a whole pool of guys next year? There are only 3-4 guys worth taking in the supp. Draft so taking on is a risk, you wouldn't want to take a guy now with a first round pick and lose a first rounder in 2012. Going in the 5-6 round of the supp. Draft is more about risk than talent.

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LOL, as others have said name one young QB prospect Gruden was able to identify and develop into a successful NFL QB?

This is the same guy who tried to make a big deal out of the fact that Cam's play calling at Auburn consisted of calls like "36" and then went on to call out a sample play that was much more complex then the average offensive play call in the NFL.

It's not to say that Gruden does not know anything about QB's and in general I like Gruden, he's entertaining... but I don't think he's done anything to be considered a QB guru.

At this point in his career, Gruden is an entertainer and he knows it. He makes comments like this to stir up controversy and stay relevant.

He works for TMZ of sports, what do u expect. ESPN perfected the art of "gotcha" sports reporting.

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there is an art to being a broadcast journalist that some have mastered. Largely because this art is about as difficult as completing a connect the dot sketch and then coloring it by numbers.

The title of his thread defines yet another example of a completely ambiguous statement that polarizes fan bases to the point of incitement, exaggeration, and amazement. Over and over again your average-minded bystander will get yanked into the mosh pit over a quote this innocent either because he has no idea that he himself is the target of the medias arrows or because he just has knee-jerk homerific reactions to everything that seems like it might diss his team.

It's a very funny thing to witness.

Ur right..that's why I ignored it when I read the article on PFT.

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First off, i dont think he's bad news off the field. i mean, it's not like Pryor's been arrested or was driving drunk. he just sold things he couldnt sell and may have gotten gifts. his issue is NOT his passing arm. Pryor has a strong arm, the issue is his decisions. he doesnt make good reads and either runs too soon or throws a bad pass.

he stretches the field, but like i said, he makes bad decisions ESPECIALLY when pressured. i think he has a future as an NFL QB, but it will take time, if he's drafted in the supplemental draft he will make his 1st start in 3 years.

Really? I have never heard that Pryor has a big arm. I believe that is an issue of his, in addition to his decision making. From the many games I have seen of his, he seems to loft balls a lot of times instead of firing in to the receiver. His passing strength is something that hasn't stood out.

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Gruden loves every QB, hell he loved Brady Quinn.

Pryor is a problem child off the field--believe me--if he doesn't clean up his act meaning down to the very people he associates with sooner or later he will not be able to outrun some of his problems. He associates with a very seedy portion of society, it's just not good.

I watched him long enough to know--and I am not biased in any way shape or form--that he cannot play QB in the NFL. His arm is NOT strong, and someday maybe we can dig up this thread so you can all see that he was not only not better than Cam Newton but he wasn't better than Andre Ware.

I'll bet anyone here, he is nothing as a pro. And will not have the #'s to support that he could "play the position" on Sundays. No way, no how.

At best as an NFL player he is an Armanti Edwards or Atwan Randle El and that's if everything goes perfect and someone is smart enough to make him play WR

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it is funny how Gruden is now viewed as the "QB guru" thanks to the media.......when he is really in the John Fox area of QB expertise.

I remember making a thread illustrating this exact point leading up to the draft. Many on this board took Gruden's praise of Cam as proof that he will be GOAT. I tried temper that optimism by pointing out the fact that Gruden only ever coached one successful QB ever.

Needless to say, I was crucified by half of this board as a hater and racist.

Now that Gruden has been *rumored* to have maybe taken a slight shot at Cam, everyone agrees that he knows nothing about evaluating QBs. My how opinions change based on the argument at hand.

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I remember making a thread illustrating this exact point leading up to the draft. Many on this board took Gruden's praise of Cam as proof that he will be GOAT. I tried temper that optimism by pointing out the fact that Gruden only ever coached one successful QB ever.

Needless to say, I was crucified by half of this board as a hater and racist.

Now that Gruden has been *rumored* to have maybe taken a slight shot at Cam, everyone agrees that he knows nothing about evaluating QBs. My how opinions change based on the argument at hand.

I wouldn't go to the point of where everyone thinks he is wrong that he could be as close to being good as cam, but just about his thoughts about Pryor. Couldn't be a more over rated Qb from a big name school

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Pryor is a problem child off the field--believe me--if he doesn't clean up his act meaning down to the very people he associates with sooner or later he will not be able to outrun some of his problems.

His arm is NOT strong, and someday maybe we can dig up this thread so you can all see that he was not only not better than Cam Newton but he wasn't better than Andre Ware.

What problems has he had???? a problem child, how??? all i heard of was gifts he got and selling his stuff, that's not problems, just him breaking college rules. As for his arm not being strong, i disagree, he has a strong arm and HAS shown it, HOWEVER, like someone, maybe you, said, when pressured, his arm usually isnt that great. in other words, when he's pressured, he makes AWFUL decisions.

Really? I have never heard that Pryor has a big arm. I believe that is an issue of his, in addition to his decision making. From the many games I have seen of his, he seems to loft balls a lot of times instead of firing in to the receiver.

there was one pass to Sanzinbacher vs. Toledo where he threw a long TD pass, he has a big arm, the problem is when he's pressure or moving he throws those loft balls, it's mainly his decision making and his mechanics that's the issue, he's worse than Cam, that's easy to spot and those are the main reasons, he's not poised in the pocket at all or he wasnt in college.

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Would love to have a guy like Pryor. If only the Panthers had drafted Green, they could have picked up Pryor and would be set at the skills position. With Jimmy's improvement Pryor could come in as a situational player and give the offense a new twist.

Oh well, a missed op..

Jimmy Jam

Williams

Shockey

Olsen

Green

Smith

Hell yeah!

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let him into the draft? lmfao he would be the only eligible player wed. a draft for 1 player is retarded.

hahaha there are more people, some corners, dont know them, that are in. Caleb King is in (and will likely not be picked) and McAdoo is in the Supplemental draft.

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