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My observations of Cam Newton's game

TheRealDeal

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Here is a recap of Newton's night. I've classified each play as Positive, Neutral or Negative. Positive Plays are plays in which I thought he did things perfectly, plays in which he looked like a five year pro, rather than a rookie. Neutral plays and plays that really don't have much to do with Newton or things that are out of his control. Negative plays are plays in which he showed that he is a rookie.

Play 1: PA rollout throw to Olsen for 11 yards (good throw, good action) Positive result

Play 2: Incompletion to Olsen (20+ yards down the field). Great Footwork in the pocket to elude the rush from Gross' side. Neutral result

Play 3: Handoff to Goody for first down, Cam selling the rollout. Neutral result

Play 4: Reverse, good block by Cam to spring Clowney. Positive result

Play 5: Deep to Olsen, great velocity. Low throw and not the greatest. If he leads Olsen by a step, it's a touchdown. Regardless, in his first game as a pro, you will take him completing passes like that all day. Positive Result

Play 6: Handoff to Goodson for no gain. Neutral Result

Play 7: Incomplete to Lafell. Poor Mechanics from Newton that time. He threw that pass off his back foot. If he plants and pushes forward, that ball is on Lafell's hands before the defender has a chance. Negative Result

Play 8: Better throw to Lafell, much better mechanics. Throw was a little low, but Lafell needs to get low and make that catch. Neutral Result

Next drive:

Play 1: Horrendous snap from center. Sacked. Not Newton's fault on this play. Neutral Result

Play 2: False start. Ziemba. Neutral Result

Play 3: Fake quick out, handoff to Goodson. Goodson fumbles. Neutral play

Next Drive:

Play 1: Sacked on play action. Entire right side came free. Not Cam's fault. Neutral Play

Play 2: Shotgun. Screen to Goodson. Not a great throw as he could have led him but good yardage. hard to give a positive result on that as any QB could have made that throw. Neutral Result

Play 3: Shotgun. Over the middle to Nanaee with coverage all over him. Pass is low and short. Not a good throw at all. Shoul had hit Olsen in the flat, doubt he would have picked up a first down. Love seeing him look down field, but if it isn't there he needs to let his TE make a play. Negative play.

Next Drive:

Play 1: Shotgun, great protection from the line. Smart throw to Barnidge, but Barney makes this play. Neutral Play

Play 2: Timeout by Newton. Negative play (however, this could be a communication issue from the coordinator). Not entirely fair to pin solely on Newton (or any QB for that matter).

Play 3: Shotgun. Deep right to Martin. Great throw and should have been pass interference. Smitty makes that play. That ball was on the money and was in a position where only Martin makes that play. Positive Play

Play 4: Shotgun. Deep to Edwards. Throw is a litte underthrown, however Edwards slowed it down due to the safety over the top. Positive play

Play 5: Shotgun. Terrible throw off back foot to Barnidge. Was getting blitzed but buckled in the pocket. Negative result.

Play 6: Shotgun. Another poor throw off back foot to barnidge. Blitz again. Could this be a trend? Negative result.

Play 7: Shotgun. Poor throw off his back foot again. Missed Edwards high. If he stays upright Edwards scores. Negative result, however you have to wonder how much adrenaline played a role here

Next Drive:

Play 1: Good throw to Fiametta from under center. Pretty routine though. Neutral Result

Play 2: Hand off to Goodson. Neutral Result

Play 3: Hand off to Goodson. Neutral Result

Play 4: Slant to Armanti. Drop by Edwards. Throw was on the money and good form. Positive result (just without the catch).

Next Drive:

Play 1: Hand off to Goodson. neutral result

Play 2: Poor throw behind goodson, but illegal contact was called. Negative result due to the throw. Negative result

Play 3: Great throw to Edwards down field, but Edwards drops it. Positive result from Newton because the throw was probably his best all night.

Play 4: Screen to Goodson. Poor throw from Cam. Goodson is lucky he didn't get blown up. Negative result

Play 5: Shotgun. Not a great throw, but it is difficult for me to see if that one should be on Clowney or Newton. It didn't look like Clowney came out of his break where he should have. Negative result, but this could easily be viewed as Neutral.

Next Drive:

Play 1: Goodson run. Neutral result

Play 2: Goodson fumbles again. neutral result.

Play 3: Shotgun. Low throw to Barney but caught. Not a bad throw though, as it was in a place where only he could catch it. Positive result

End of night for Cam.

8 positives

16 neutrals

9 negatives

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Chef17 you've gotton better but their was a time you were like Heinrich Himmler.

:lol: please show me where that was. Most of my post concerning TRD are telling people to block him instead of bitching about his post. Please explain how me telling you to block him is saying he is a great poster and I support everything he says.

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lol wrong

3 maybe...here's my recollection.

rollout to olsen in flat, screen to goody, dump to Barnidge, screen to goody, fiametta, and another short one to Barnidge

5 of those 6 were within 3 yards of the LOS, some behind. The last barnidge one I don't recall but it was no more than 10 yards.

So 5 balls thrown less than 5 yards, perhaps one thrown between 5-10, and 2 over 30.

Phenomenal performance

Perhaps they are being objective. I know that might seem like an alien concept to you.

So they are objective now but when everyone makes threads complaining about them they aren't? They turn it on and off?

Many of them said he had a mixed performance and his fundamentals are holding him back, which is what I'm saying. They are wowed by the two big plays and ignore the other plays where he made bad throws.

They are doing a high level overview and showing highlights, they aren't doing an analysis.

bro keep his name out of your mouf tho when talkin to other ppl, he gonna go all jim jones on ya message board style

Mike jones/

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@BogDog10, that's a great write up/break down. And it shows what we have been saying: not great, not terrible. He played like a rookie. He played better than a rookie with only 2 weeks to practice with coaches. He showed flashes of great potential. Factor all of this in, and that equals TRD thinking Cam stunk it up. Yeah, that makes plenty Of sense...

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:lol: please show me where that was. Most of my post concerning TRD are telling people to block him instead of bitching about his post. Please explain how me telling you to block him is saying he is a great poster and I support everything he says.

Dude your cool and to be honest I'm not going 20 or 30 pages back to find the post where you were agreeing with everything TRD said. The whole Matt Moore Jimmy back and fourth we all had last year.

But give credit I'm not the only one saying at 1 time you were a firm cult member in the TRD compound outside of Matt Moore's house.

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Dude your cool and to be honest I'm not going 20 or 30 pages back to find the post where you were agreeing with everything TRD said. The whole Matt Moore Jimmy back and fourth we all had last year.

But give credit I'm not the only one saying at 1 time you were a firm cult member in the TRD compound outside of Matt Moore's house.

So because I agree with him that Moore was better than Jimmy last year (a total of one thing) I'm his follower? You know how stupid that sounds. And KT has said numerous times I didn't want the Panthers to draft Newton but has yet to provide proof so I don't take anything he says as the truth. I haven't even agreed with anything he has said in this thread. But please continue to make claims with no support :lol: This is one reason I enjoy the huddle, pretty funny stuff.

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chef17 will one day be bold enough to stand behind his convictions instead of "playing the fence" all time. The "double speak" and "devil's advocate" is annoying. Why is he so defensive about what people say about TRD? And in every thread people bash TRD chef17 is there to save the day. It never fails, like clockwork. :lol: And it isnt like chef17 hasnt said completely asinine and ignorant things to me or other posters before regarding Cam Newton. So is it really far fetched to think he's keeping TRD's SWAG up? If chef17 actually stood for something and expressed it OPENLY I think people wouldnt think he's TRD's sock puppet.

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I agree with most of your analysis and it's funny you get pie and I get called a troll...my comments are in red.

Play 1: PA rollout throw to Olsen for 11 yards (good throw, good action) Positive result - You give credit to Barny for making the play later but no mention of it here....I would give it a neutral since that is a very common play in the NFL and it was about a 3 yard throw.

Play 2: Incompletion to Olsen (20+ yards down the field). Great Footwork in the pocket to elude the rush from Gross' side. Neutral result

Play 3: Handoff to Goody for first down, Cam selling the rollout. Neutral result

Play 4: Reverse, good block by Cam to spring Clowney. Positive result - I guess

Play 5: Deep to Olsen, great velocity. Low throw and not the greatest. If he leads Olsen by a step, it's a touchdown. Regardless, in his first game as a pro, you will take him completing passes like that all day. Positive Result - I don't understand how you can acknowledge it's a low throw and would have been a touchdown but call it a positive.

Play 6: Handoff to Goodson for no gain. Neutral Result

Play 7: Incomplete to Lafell. Poor Mechanics from Newton that time. He threw that pass off his back foot. If he plants and pushes forward, that ball is on Lafell's hands before the defender has a chance. Negative Result

Play 8: Better throw to Lafell, much better mechanics. Throw was a little low, but Lafell needs to get low and make that catch. Neutral Result - A little low? LaFell ended up rolling on the ground. No reason to throw it low. If he brings that throw up it's a TD, again I don't know how you go neutral here

Next drive:

Play 1: Horrendous snap from center. Sacked. Not Newton's fault on this play. Neutral Result

Play 2: False start. Ziemba. Neutral Result

Play 3: Fake quick out, handoff to Goodson. Goodson fumbles. Neutral play

Next Drive:

Play 1: Sacked on play action. Entire right side came free. Not Cam's fault. Neutral Play

Play 2: Shotgun. Screen to Goodson. Not a great throw as he could have led him but good yardage. hard to give a positive result on that as any QB could have made that throw. Neutral Result - If you use that reasoning here, you should use it in the Olsen throw at the beginning

Play 3: Shotgun. Over the middle to Nanaee with coverage all over him. Pass is low and short. Not a good throw at all. Shoul had hit Olsen in the flat, doubt he would have picked up a first down. Love seeing him look down field, but if it isn't there he needs to let his TE make a play. Negative play.

Next Drive:

Play 1: Shotgun, great protection from the line. Smart throw to Barnidge, but Barney makes this play. Neutral Play - I would give him a positive here as it looks like he scanned the field then went to one of his later reads for a checkdown

Play 2: Timeout by Newton. Negative play (however, this could be a communication issue from the coordinator). Not entirely fair to pin solely on Newton (or any QB for that matter).

Play 3: Shotgun. Deep right to Martin. Great throw and should have been pass interference. Smitty makes that play. That ball was on the money and was in a position where only Martin makes that play. Positive Play - Saying Smitty makes that catch is borderline....was a good throw though, not sure if he could have led Martin more and I think Martin had to spin around to catch it. One of his better throws though overall.

Play 4: Shotgun. Deep to Edwards. Throw is a litte underthrown, however Edwards slowed it down due to the safety over the top. Positive play - The safety wasn't over the top. I think Armanti started slowing after the pass was thrown, just my opinion though. Based on the play design, I wouldn't guess it was designed for Armanti to sit in the zone. I think it's designed for him to outrun the nickel over the top with the corner and safety vacating the area.

Play 5: Shotgun. Terrible throw off back foot to Barnidge. Was getting blitzed but buckled in the pocket. Negative result.

Play 6: Shotgun. Another poor throw off back foot to barnidge. Blitz again. Could this be a trend? Negative result.

Play 7: Shotgun. Poor throw off his back foot again. Missed Edwards high. If he stays upright Edwards scores. Negative result, however you have to wonder how much adrenaline played a role here

Those three are what bothered me a lot. Three really bad throws in a row based on the same thing.

Next Drive:

Play 1: Good throw to Fiametta from under center. Pretty routine though. Neutral Result

Play 2: Hand off to Goodson. Neutral Result

Play 3: Hand off to Goodson. Neutral Result

Play 4: Slant to Armanti. Drop by Edwards. Throw was on the money and good form. Positive result (just without the catch).

Next Drive:

Play 1: Hand off to Goodson. neutral result

Play 2: Poor throw behind goodson, but illegal contact was called. Negative result due to the throw. Negative result

Play 3: Great throw to Edwards down field, but Edwards drops it. Positive result from Newton because the throw was probably his best all night.Best throw, drop, everything I've seen from him. Was very encouraged by that play

Play 4: Screen to Goodson. Poor throw from Cam. Goodson is lucky he didn't get blown up. Negative result

Play 5: Shotgun. Not a great throw, but it is difficult for me to see if that one should be on Clowney or Newton. It didn't look like Clowney came out of his break where he should have. Negative result, but this could easily be viewed as Neutral. - This is one I couldn't tell on either. The ball was behind him/on his back shoulder allowing the DB to get his swipe in there. I can't tell if that affected the result or not so I counted that as a drop by Clowney but it could go either way. Not sure how it plays out if he leads him as I believe he had the DB beat

Next Drive:

Play 1: Goodson run. Neutral result

Play 2: Goodson fumbles again. neutral result.

Play 3: Shotgun. Low throw to Barney but caught. Not a bad throw though, as it was in a place where only he could catch it. Positive result

End of night for Cam.

8 positives

16 neutrals

9 negatives

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chef17 will one day be bold enough to stand behind his convictions instead of "playing the fence" all time. The "double speak" and "devil's advocate" is annoying. Why is he so defensive about what people say about TRD? And in every thread people bash TRD chef17 is there to save the day. It never fails, like clockwork. :lol: And it isnt like chef17 hasnt said completely asinine and ignorant things to me or other posters before regarding Cam Newton. So is it really far fetched to think he's keeping TRD's SWAG up? If chef17 actually stood for something and expressed it OPENLY I think people wouldnt think he's TRD's sock puppet.

Link please or STFU

I would love to see my asinine and ignorgant comments to you about Cam.

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