"Panther's spending spree cap hits in future seasons"

[ProBowler]

I just don't understand how a manager can max out a cap, and the only thing different from the team that was last year is Cam. Out side of that we are as bad as we were last year.

How is it possible to spend that much money and get this type of result?

[Swarly]

so everyone still think it's a good thing our cap is nearly maxed for the next 4 seasons already?

you do realize the cap is going to raise significantly within the next few years, right?

[thunderraiden]

so everyone still think it's a good thing our cap is nearly maxed for the next 4 seasons already?

Come back when you learn how professional football works.

Players are fired for poor performance. THE CAP INCREASES (destroying your "maxed for the next 4 seasons"), and you really think we're going to pay Thomas Davis?

Contracts get bigger as years progress not because of some weird trend, but because the cap increases every year.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Come back when you learn how the professional football works.

Players are fired for poor performance. THE CAP INCREASES (destroying your "maxed for the next 4 seasons." And you really think we're going to pay Thomas Davis?

We're going lose him but still have to deal with the cap hit. How bout you come back when you learn how professional football works. ;)

[Swarly]

We're going lose him but still have to deal with the cap hit. How bout you come back when you learn how the professional football works. ;)

No, we aren't. His contract was worked so his "bonus" of $8 million required him to be on the roster next year. We have an option to cut him and we will.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

you do realize the cap is going to raise significantly within the next few years, right?

for every team, what's your point? we'll still be the worst situation in the league with our cap space vs. what talent we have

[R0CKnR0LLA]

No, we aren't. His contract was worked so his "bonus" of $8 million required him to be on the roster next year. We have an option to cut him and we will.

there's still a cap hit

[raleigh-panther]

Considering the core group is 1-5, yeah, I have problem with it.

Doesn't matter.

[klumme]

there's still a cap hit

The long answer to that is.... No. The 8 mil he got this year is the 8 mill that was guaranteed.

[Brooklyn Bully]

The same core group that hasn't done a damn thing? Smith is older, TD is done, Anderson is simply above average, Gross is older, D-Lo and Stewie are the real deal as is Beason and Kalil. Four guys, plus Cam, won't get it done, folks. We saw this same problem when all of our money was locked up in Pep, Buck, Jenkins, and Ruck. And we saw that that got us, sans the one super-run season.

[Panthro]

Your suggestions?

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Your suggestions?

There's really not much you can do to get around these massive signing bonuses. The cap hit for a SB is prorated over the life of the contract (up to 5 years). If the player is cut or traded the remaining cap hit for the signing bonus is accelerated and counts toward the cap immediately.

For example, had we traded DWill before the deadline this season we would have had to absorb a $12.8 million cap hit as the remaining prorated cap hit accelerated. We only have around 2.3-2.4 million in cap space (don't feel like looking up the exact number) so we couldn't have traded him even if we wanted to and had a deal in place. Another example, we are going to have to deal with a 5.6 million cap hit in 2012 for releasing Thomas Davis this offseason.

You can't renegotiate these bonuses either, they've already been paid and are going to hit our cap space eventually, whether the player is still on the team or not.

About the only thing you can do is restructure contracts to move cap hits into the future. You don't create any cap space overall by doing this, you only shift when that cap hit will take place. Doing so can create cap space for the current year at the expense of having a larger cap hit in the future. This is akin to trading future draft picks for current ones and is the #1 thing that leads a team straight into cap hell.

[jramsey4]

Hurney is fuggin awesome. How could we function without him.

[thunderraiden]

About the only thing you can do is restructure contracts to move cap hits into the future. You don't create any cap space overall by doing this, you only shift when that cap hit will take place. Doing so can create cap space for the current year at the expense of having a larger cap hit in the future. This is akin to trading future draft picks for current ones and is the #1 thing that leads a team straight into cap hell.

Yea except you're forgetting how much we have to pay free agents to not only play here but our current ones to stay here. If we didn't pay them we would be in football hell.