TE Analysis

[weymouthst]

Yeah, Barnidge may not make the team. Shockey and Olsen are the much better receivers, and Hartsock is more of a pure blocking TE.

But Barnidge shows flashes, like today's catch in camp. I assume he will get some shots in preseason, and see if his blocking can improve. If he can solidify his blocking techniques, I think he makes the team over Hartsock.

edit: Is there room for both Hartsock and Barnidge do you think? As said above Hartsock could be back up FB, and like MadHatter said, Shockey is coming down to the end of his career. He may have 1-2 solid seasons left.

[armistice]

hartsock =FB

barney will be around.

Hartsock = H-back.

They keep him for TE, and FB.

[bigjohn]

Barnidge was getting some looks at long snapper too. That might be his ticket at a roster spot. Then if Olsen or Shockey get hurt, there's his chance.

[MadHatter]

Yeah, Barnidge may not make the team. Shockey and Olsen are the much better receivers, and Hartsock is more of a pure blocking TE.

But Barnidge shows flashes, like today's catch in camp. I assume he will get some shots in preseason, and see if his blocking can improve. If he can solidify his blocking techniques, I think he makes the team over Hartsock.

edit: Is there room for both Hartsock and Barnidge do you think? As said above Hartsock could be back up FB, and like MadHatter said, Shockey is coming down to the end of his career. He may have 1-2 solid seasons left.

I think he does make it.

Carry Hartsock as the 2nd FB. Barnidge is also a very good special teams player....not to mention that Chud loves the TE.

[JawnyBlaze]

josephperson Joe Person

Long TD pass from Newton to TE Gary Barnidge, who's had a good camp.

Barnidge has tons of potential if he could just get the opportunity. Hartsock is just a blocking TE. That's not really a TE, that's a 6th lineman.

[depthcharge82]

Hartsock is going to be a key blocker. you have to remember that we are playing the NFC North whom have 3 teams with solid D(lions have a nice front 4).

[MadHatter]

Hartsock is going to be a key blocker. you have to remember that we are playing the NFC North whom have 3 teams with solid D(lions have a nice front 4).

Waiting to see how Fairley recovers from surgery before making assessment of Lion's front four.

[frash.exe]

one thing i like about our top two TEs is that it opens up the playbook. If you think about it when you're trying to make third down conversions that are 5 yards or more you'd usually think to go in spread formations or other 3/4 wide receiver sets. But we've got Olsen, who is one of the fastest TEs in the NFL and Shockey, who can get open running intermediate routes. You add Smitty and our 2nd WR on the edges, and line up Williams or Stewart behind you, who is a threat to run the ball. So on a third and 5, what defensive coordinator out there knows 100% that your QB is going to hand it off to one of our talented backs or drop back and look for one of our receiving threats to be open, 2 of which are TEs?

[mj4life]

one thing i like about our top two TEs is that it opens up the playbook. If you think about it when you're trying to make third down conversions that are 5 yards or more you'd usually think to go in spread formations or other 3/4 wide receiver sets. But we've got Olsen, who is one of the fastest TEs in the NFL and Shockey, who can get open running intermediate routes. You add Smitty and our 2nd WR on the edges, and line up Williams or Stewart behind you, who is a threat to run the ball. So on a third and 5, what defensive coordinator out there knows 100% that your QB is going to hand it off to one of our talented backs or drop back and look for one of our receiving threats to be open, 2 of which are TEs?

& if cam is at QB gives them something else to think about

[MadHatter]

one thing i like about our top two TEs is that it opens up the playbook. If you think about it when you're trying to make third down conversions that are 5 yards or more you'd usually think to go in spread formations or other 3/4 wide receiver sets. But we've got Olsen, who is one of the fastest TEs in the NFL and Shockey, who can get open running intermediate routes. You add Smitty and our 2nd WR on the edges, and line up Williams or Stewart behind you, who is a threat to run the ball. So on a third and 5, what defensive coordinator out there knows 100% that your QB is going to hand it off to one of our talented backs or drop back and look for one of our receiving threats to be open, 2 of which are TEs?

I will one up you in that scenario......

Put Cam in the shotgun (with his running ability).

[weymouthst]

one thing i like about our top two TEs is that it opens up the playbook. If you think about it when you're trying to make third down conversions that are 5 yards or more you'd usually think to go in spread formations or other 3/4 wide receiver sets. But we've got Olsen, who is one of the fastest TEs in the NFL and Shockey, who can get open running intermediate routes. You add Smitty and our 2nd WR on the edges, and line up Williams or Stewart behind you, who is a threat to run the ball. So on a third and 5, what defensive coordinator out there knows 100% that your QB is going to hand it off to one of our talented backs or drop back and look for one of our receiving threats to be open, 2 of which are TEs?

This is the best part about the new offense, and new additions. Last year was just horrible, because the defense easily shutdown any options the offense had. They knew when we would run, and knew when we would pass.

The new offensive scheme should be much harder to read, and Smith won't be double or triple covered every play. The pass opens up the run, the run opens up the pass, and we have the ability to exploit this fact, much unlike last year.

I will one up you in that scenario......

Put Cam in the shotgun (with his running ability).

This just adds yet another dimension to the offense. However, I really hope that the coaching staff stresses the importance of smart running for Cam. Cam has the ability to truck over a DB, and continue on, but I would much rather he runs smart and goes down to avoid contact or run out of bounds. Depending on the situation, of course.