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would you trade a 1st and more for

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Fox007 Grand Master

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any player in the nfl that would want a contract like peppers?? I wouldnt and that seems to be the same sentiment amongst journalist of the 2 suitors who come up most in the peppers rumors

http://www.patspulpit.com/2009/3/4/780978/should-julius-peppers-wear

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20090304/PKR01/90304194/1989/GPG02

It would definitely be worth it for a QB who is as good at QB as Peppers is at DE.

Outside of that, I honestly don't know if I would. My team would already have to have said good QB, and just about everything else in place except for a premiere pass rusher.

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It would definitely be worth it for a QB who is as good at QB as Peppers is at DE.

Outside of that, I honestly don't know if I would. My team would already have to have said good QB, and just about everything else in place except for a premiere pass rusher.

The Vikings traded for J. Allen last year when they had an inexperienced QB in Jackson. Most teams realize that D whens championships and a good pass rush is essential for a great D and that is what Peppers does best. I don't see us getting two 1st rounders for him but I do think that some team will be willing to trade for him.

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personally i dont think its the draft picks teams would have to give that scares them away, its the contract. if peppers realy wants out, and its not about the money he needs to be willing to take a contract thats around 12-13 million a year. i thnk someone would sign him at that.

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For a talent like peppers....yes. Watch out for the Broncos or The Patriots.

The broncos have been stock piling players to make trades for picks to get peppers??

The patriots have been quiet this year and they did trade away there starting olb in a 3-4 defense??

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If they think that he is the guy who can get their team over the hump and deep into the playoffs...why wouldn't you trade for him?

Think about it this way...If a team said give us your first rounder and you will be the best team in you conference giving you the best chance to make it to the superbowl. Would you take that?

Or give us your first rounder and you will go from an 8-8 team to an 11-5 team, go to the playoffs, and have a shot to make a lot of noise with you newfound defensive talent...would you not take that?

The bottom line is that as fans we want to see continuity every season but as coaches of those teams they know its a "what have you done for me lately" league. Therefore they are probably more willing to mortgage the future for the present. A trade involving Pep is a perfect example of that. IMO it would be a perfect trade for a team like Denver who has the offense, they have some pieces on defense, and Pep would put them over the top in that division. With Cutler, their Oline, Dawkins, and Peppers they would be the favorite to win that weak division for a few years...

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