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Cam's accuracy

personal_foul

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I don't think anyone here excepting Cam to have the elite passing skills of let's say a Matt Moore. However I think it will be Cam's overall ability to move the ball which is going to make him an "elite" top tier QB. Steve Young is an entirely different category. However comparisons to Vick and Young are valid. Vick was not know for his outstanding accuracy either however you no longer hear much questions about it. Coaching has played a huge role in this. Vince Young was effective however personal problems derailed him.

I think what we envision for Cam is the ability to exploit defenses that stack up on the run, and being able to break down defenses with his legs. Using statements like "it takes an elite passing game" to win in the NFL is shortsighted. Just like 10 years ago you had to have a strong defense to win, or before that you had to have a great running game to win. A case can be made pretty much for all the scenarios. Eli Manning has as many Superbowl Victories as Peyton. Trent Dilfer also.

Also, look at our roster. We don't have a nimble pass blocking type of OL. Its a big heavy road grading type of OL. We have arguably the best backfield in football. We should be running the ball a lot. I think you should really appreciate what we have and what "unique" ability Cam brings instead of you think he can't.

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Cam's accuracy, on a relative basis, sucks.

On his staged pro day he missed 6 open receivers.

Clausen, McCoy, and Bradford combined missed 3... and they aren't tops in accuracy by any means.

But am I worried? No.

I'm not worried because a dual threat quarterback find open receivers in space. Unlike Clausen who will have to throw lasers into a defense expecting a pass, Cam can shake things up with his mobility and find an open man without having to worry about hitting him right in the numbers. If you watch Vince Young, he does that all day. Vick used to do that for a living, but I can honestly say his accuracy drastically improved last year. McNabb has a rocket arm and was very dangerous when he used to be accurate, but last year his touch on passes was terrible.

ask Philly fans about his accuracy....has always been off. But do to his athleticism he made it work as you mentioned in regards to using your mobility to your advantage.

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he'll get there.

remember we have a contingency plan for all this... the chudz offense relies heavily on tight ends, which are an inaccurate rookie QB's best friends, and we have two damn fine ones. we also made keeping the running game intact a big priority, which is a rookie QB's other best friend.

cam will eventually be forced to be accurate - and i believe he will, given time - but there's no need to panic if he's not a sniper on day one.

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seriously where did these accuracy problems come from? I'm pretty damn positive any and all accuracy problems he might have now have to do with his footwork dropping back from under center and not taking plays from shotgun, like many, many players who came from a spread offense in college. It's something he is only going to improve on as he gets more and more comfortable playing under center.

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You......you DO realize Vick's accuracy was worse coming into the draft than Cam's was coming into the draft, right?

Or do you just excuse the stats to make pooty threads?

I disagree somewhat. Vick's problems were decision making more than accuracy IMO. Although, you and another poster make a good point that Vick wasn't overly accurate and now is very accurate. Therefore he's a good example of someone whose accuracy improved while in the league by a large margin. Good point. Thanks

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he'll get there.

remember we have a contingency plan for all this... the chudz offense relies heavily on tight ends, which are an inaccurate rookie QB's best friends, and we have two damn fine ones. we also made keeping the running game intact a big priority, which is a rookie QB's other best friend.

cam will eventually be forced to be accurate - and i believe he will, given time - but there's no need to panic if he's not a sniper on day one.

But... but... #1 draft picks are supposed to play like 4-year vet Peyton Mannings in their first Training Camps and throw the ball so accurately that they can put it on the palms of the hands of receivers who aren't looking back and just run full speed with their arms held out.

/sarcasm

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Most of the time inaccuracy comes from poor mechanics and timing. Cam is still a work in progress. All quarterbacks going from college to the NFl suffer some problems with accuracy largely because the defenders are quicker and the windows are smaller. Lets wait until he plays a preseason game at least to decide how he is going to be. If you go to camp regularly you know that most QBs are inaccurate the first week or two. Guys are worrying more about where to put the ball, what play is called, etc to be worried about putting just the right tough on the ball. It takes timing between receivers and quarterbacks and they have no time to work on that.

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But... but... #1 draft picks are supposed to play like 4-year vet Peyton Mannings in their first Training Camps and throw the ball so accurately that they can put it on the palms of the hands of receivers who aren't looking back and just run full speed with their arms held out.

/sarcasm

I didn't start this thread based on 2 rookie camp reports, but based on Cam's college career and predraft workouts to this point. His accuracy in not good compared to many NFL level QBs let alone the 1st pick overall. Hopefully it will improve is all I'm saying.

To the stat posters, you can have a high completion % in college and not be nearly NFL accurate

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