Truly speaking - how much of last year's inept play was due to John Fox?

[barrett]

If I am going to cash someone's checks, I am going to do the job until the end. Didn't Fox get about $5 million last year? He was offered the chance to go somewhere else. He chose not to. He was not a victim. So, "going through the motions" (and doing it poorly), reflects on his character.

I so agree. He was not a victim. He got paid to do a job and his job was to win. I just didn't see any pasion or emotion from him and the sidelines. It was like he didn't care. I thought the Panthers should have gotten rid of him sooner. The only good thing to come out of last year was Cam Newton.

[Cavscout]

If I am going to cash someone's checks, I am going to do the job until the end. Didn't Fox get about $5 million last year? He was offered the chance to go somewhere else. He chose not to. He was not a victim. So, "going through the motions" (and doing it poorly), reflects on his character.

One of the many reasons that I am soooo glad he is gone!:seeya:

[XClown1986]

Honestly I would say it was 50% Richardson, 30% Fox, and 20% players.

Richardson screwed up. He set the team up well with the cap for the next year, but in the midst of all of that, he pulled the rug out from beneath the team. He left a lame duck coach in charge of a bunch of young and inexperienced guys, a couple key guys, and many guys that wouldn't even make other teams. He took a lot of the decision making away from Fox and that's the last thing you should do to a head coach in his last year. Richardson knows he hampered this team single handedly, why do you think he opened that check book so willingly when the CBA was agreed upon?

Fox coached like a pissed off rebellious teenager last year. He hated the situation he was put in and threw a tantrum by not wanting to play some guys that many wanted him to. His attitude and coaching strategy lost the team.

The players had little to strive for and had a coaching staff swimming in their own issues to the point where they weren't helped as much as they should have been. The veterans were cut or traded, and the players couldn't even turn to one another for direction because they were all in the same boat.

[nagai]

That's what we said about Dan Henning too. we see how that was, it was Fox he can't adapt.

Exactly. Every year we found a scapegoat, yet we never really got any better. Maybe, just maybe, there was something wrong with the common denominator?

[raleigh-panther]

I think Jerry was very hands-off with Fox and gave Fox everything he asked for, and when Fox could not win back to back seasons, particularly against better teams, but was being paid as an upper echelon coach, that was enough. The investment didn't represent in a return.

To me, it's pretty simple. The most important position on the football field is QB. Have one, and you have a chance to contend every year. Stick with a journeyman, particularly a journeyman who you had to know had elbow problems, well, that's beyond stupid.

Year after year with John Fox, there was always some position more important in the draft.

Sooner or later, everyone's dues have to come due. His did. He was paid handsomely for being mediocre and handsomely to play not to win, but to avoid losing.

[bigdog10]

It wasn't solely Fox's fault, however he needs to shoulder a good deal of blame.

Fox is a coach who will thrive with older veteran players. He's not a teacher, he's a ball coach. I don't think he was set up for success with the roster he had last year and especially the QB play.

With that being said, Fox should have adjusted his style. Instead, he shut down. He has never been good at developing young talent, specifically on the offensive side of the ball (heck, look at the majority of our offensive draft picks over the time he was here...Shelton, Colbert, Carter, etc.)

[frash.exe]

I feel like writing an explanation of how i think this team will be better itt, but i may just wait until after my workout and write up an in-depth op since I've got a lot of stuff to talk about and the forum is a little slow today

[panthers55]

I blame Fox for 2 things, unwillingness to draft a franchise QB in 9 years as coach, and failure to develop rookies and have adequate depth because he relied too much on veterans. Otherwise I don't think 2010 was his fault so much as Richardsons.

[KillerKat]

75% Fox

15% Davidson

10% Clausen

[TruCatzFan]

Truely... We'll never know

[Fiz]

poo rolls downhill

[Floppin]

Farts rise.

[bleys]

To answer your question "how much of last year's inept play was due to John Fox?"....... I am going to answer ALOT!!!!!

^^

[Marguide]

The Fox philosophy was old and tired, and he refused to adapt to a changing game. His stated goal of keeping the game close going into the 4th quarter, and trying to steal a win, just doesn't work anymore in today's NFL.

I blame Jerry for keeping him around last year. That was bone-headed. But Fox has some flaws that will follow him to Denver, and I expect his tenure there to be no more than 3 years.