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Practice 8/2


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It sounded like yesterday he started weak and finished strong. I wonder if he is not taking the positional drills seriously enough, like you suggested. That might explain the difference.

Could be, but if that is the case and I were Jimmy, getting outshined in the positional drills by a rookie wouldn't sit too well with me. In drills, Cam looked to be the better QB.

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Could be, but if that is the case and I were Jimmy, getting outshined in the positional drills by a rookie wouldn't sit too well with me. In drills, Cam looked to be the better QB.

that speaks volumes....b/c this is Cam at his worst....and he already looks better than Clausen (2nd year player w/ 13 games and 10 NFL starts under his belt).

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I can't wait for Cam to go out in games and do these things Riv loves, and prove all these haters wrong. Still grasping for straws and he just keeps taking them away from you.

And the craziest thing, he's OUR QB, why wouldn't you want him to succeed? I TOLD YA'LL!!! We have a legit franchise QB for the first time ever, we have a right to sound like homers and be stoked.

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that speaks volumes....b/c this is Cam at his worst....and he already looks better than Clausen (2nd year player w/ 13 games and 10 NFL starts under his belt).

And this is why everyone should be excited... Cam is a rookie, he's only gonna keep getting better. He had a lot of comparisons to Josh Freeman coming out, but he's ahead of Freeman so far.

I think he's gonna perform a lot more like Roethlisberger did his rookie year with more gamebreaking ability (and starting all 16 games).

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I'd like to see a poll with honest responses about who actually thought Armanti had a legitimate chance coming into this season to show any promise. I personally, had written him off. But he's showing life. No one would be honest though.

Im not an AE basher, cause i hardly bash anyone on our Team. However, I had somewhat written him off. and im still a skeptic. I will admit that.

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And this is why everyone should be excited... Cam is a rookie, he's only gonna keep getting better. He had a lot of comparisons to Josh Freeman coming out, but he's ahead of Freeman so far.

I think he's gonna perform a lot more like Roethlisberger did his rookie year with more gamebreaking ability (and starting all 16 games).

Pure conjecture.

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All in all I say the two did well today, but in different areas. As mention Clausen struggled with the sideline comeback and Newton needs to work on keeping the ball down and not leading the WR so much. Clausen needs to treat positional drills the same as 11-on-11's. He tends to go though the motions and not play at game speed. His passes were lazy early on and got crisper as the practice drew on. Those first few passes are I guess what people were refering to as horrible.

To expand on this...

1. What did each do really well in 11-11s? What did they do the worst?

2. How is accuracy for each? Who is more accurate right now under pressure?

3. Does the offense overall look far behind the defense?

4. Do Cam and Jimmy seem to be picking up the playbook?

5. Are both guys still telegraphing throws or actually going through some progressions?

Thanks

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Pure conjecture.

Ummm, yeah... this is a message board. Hence the use of "I think."

But, we're gaining a lot of evidence each practice supporting my idea that he's going to perform very well this year, even better than most people thought.

Why so negative?

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To expand on this...

1. What did each do really well in 11-11s? What did they do the worst?-Cam looked frazzled and Jimmy looked like the vet. Jimmy was the one throwing the darts and Cam's accuracy faded big time. Jimmy progressed through his reads calmly and hit his targets...even Smitty who made McClain (I think) look like a rag doll juking him not once, not twice, but three times for a TD.

2. How is accuracy for each? Who is more accurate right now under pressure?

-Jimmy's accuracy was off in the beginning with no zip and slightly behind his first couple targets. Cam was spot on and throwing darts. Again, outside of the 11-on-11 there was no D-line present nor O-line to throw over, just pitch and catch with WRs against DBs. Jimmy has to get in a rhythm on comeback routes...as noted earlier, he struggled today with that route. From what I saw today, Jimmy handles pressure better.

3. Does the offense overall look far behind the defense?

-I'm worried about the DBs, both QBs torched them all day long. Most incompletions were on the QB or WR and RARELY the efforts of the cover man. In the 11-on-11 the D-line generated decent pressure "sacking" Cam once. This drill was one of the shorter ones and to be honest, a lack of a full compliment of players, doesn't paint a complete picture for me. The offense looked to be slightly ahead of the defense. Take that with a grain of salt becasue the dogs aren't off the leash as of yet. They are still playing touch football outside of the trenches. The lines were the only ones hitting today.

4. Do Cam and Jimmy seem to be picking up the playbook?

In short yes. One of the last drills was simply at walk-through pace where a play was given and the WRs jogged their route. At this point Shula halted them and made the QB talk about his progressions. If I recall neither Jimmy nor Cam got corrected.

5. Are both guys still telegraphing throws or actually going through some progressions?

I hate to sound like a broken record but the 11-on-11's didn't last very long and only ran once. Both seemed to go though their progressions, although Jimmy looked calm in his reads and Cam couldn't see the forest for the trees.

Neither looked to be telegraphing their throws, but that could just be a reflecton of our DB play as well.

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1. What did each do really well in 11-11s? What did they do the worst?-Cam looked frazzled and Jimmy looked like the vet. Jimmy was the one throwing the darts and Cam's accuracy faded big time. Jimmy progressed through his reads calmly and hit his targets...even Smitty who made McClain (I think) look like a rag doll juking him not once, not twice, but three times for a TD.

2. How is accuracy for each? Who is more accurate right now under pressure?

-Jimmy's accuracy was off in the beginning with no zip and slightly behind his first couple targets. Cam was spot on and throwing darts. Again, outside of the 11-on-11 there was no D-line present nor O-line to throw over, just pitch and catch with WRs against DBs. Jimmy has to get in a rhythm on comeback routes...as noted earlier, he struggled today with that route. From what I saw today, Jimmy handles pressure better.

3. Does the offense overall look far behind the defense?

-I'm worried about the DBs, both QBs torched them all day long. Most incompletions were on the QB or WR and RARELY the efforts of the cover man. In the 11-on-11 the D-line generated decent pressure "sacking" Cam once. This drill was one of the shorter ones and to be honest, a lack of a full compliment of players, doesn't paint a complete picture for me. The offense looked to be slightly ahead of the defense. Take that with a grain of salt becasue the dogs aren't off the leash as of yet. They are still playing touch football outside of the trenches. The lines were the only ones hitting today.

4. Do Cam and Jimmy seem to be picking up the playbook?

In short yes. One of the last drills was simply at walk-through pace where a play was given and the WRs jogged their route. At this point Shula halted them and made the QB talk about his progressions. If I recall neither Jimmy nor Cam got corrected.

5. Are both guys still telegraphing throws or actually going through some progressions?

I hate to sound like a broken record but the 11-on-11's didn't last very long and only ran once. Both seemed to go though their progressions, although Jimmy looked calm in his reads and Cam couldn't see the forest for the trees.

Neither looked to be telegraphing their throws, but that could just be a reflecton of our DB play as well.

Thank you for the most informative and balanced training camp post thus far in 2011 (IMO). Very appreciated.

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Thank you for the most informative and balanced training camp post thus far in 2011 (IMO). Very appreciated.

You're welcome. I want the best QB on this team starting and where I or other fans have that guy PERSONALLY ranked, either first string or backup, shouldn't make a hill of beans.

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