Did Hurney do a good job in FA?

[KARASMATIC444]

Apparently you are forgetting

1. Getting the best DE FA resigned

2. Getting the best 4-3 MLB extended

3. Getting a Top 5 or Top 10 TE

4. Getting 2 of the Top 10 OLB FA resigned

5. Gaining a Roster Spot by signing that K

6. Getting the Top RB FA resigned

7. Signing 2-3 UDFA that could make the team and actually help out when most times UDFAs are just camp fodder

so yes it's a B+/A-

On top of the fact free agency isn't over yet.

On the cap floor - You must spend 99% by the END of the season. When the 2013 offseason/season gets here it'll be 89% but until then it's 99%.

And a DT, everyone seems to forget.

[MadHatter]

Some people's lives are so miderable that they walk around looking for the negative in everything that happens around them. Jarhead life is good....learn it.

[Urrymonster]

Apparently you are forgetting

1. Getting the best DE FA resigned

2. Getting the best 4-3 MLB extended

3. Getting a Top 5 or Top 10 TE

4. Getting 2 of the Top 10 OLB FA resigned

5. Gaining a Roster Spot by signing that K

6. Getting the Top RB FA resigned

7. Signing 2-3 UDFA that could make the team and actually help out when most times UDFAs are just camp fodder

so yes it's a B+/A-

On top of the fact free agency isn't over yet.

On the cap floor - You must spend 99% by the END of the season. When the 2013 offseason/season gets here it'll be 89% but until then it's 99%.

1. Agreed, but it's subjective. It also is a lot of money, but I am happy with the contract.

2. Debatable, he's got his flaws and he has some very inconsistent games. What makes him valuable is his leadership. I would be more inclined to say he is in the top 5 4-3 MLBs.

3. Olsen is top 15-20 in the passing game only. He is useless as a blocker.

4. That is homerism at it's best. TD hasn't played in two years and Anderson has one good season out of five.

5. Agreed that losing the wasted spot is good, however we didn't need to spend $12million on an inconsistent field goal kicker who is only 3 years younger than a much better field goal kicker.

6. Agreed, but we possibly have a better running back on the roster already. That said I am unsure if Goodson was actually all that good as a runner last year.

7. Agreed.

There are counter arguments to virtually every move he has made, so it's only a knock out to some. If you saw the Redskins doing exactly what we have done, what would your reaction be?

I believe we are a better team, however I also think we didn't need to take quite so many big financial risks.

[jarhead]

Some people's lives are so miderable that they walk around looking for the negative in everything that happens around them. Jarhead life is good....learn it.

Life is good.Who is miserible or negative? My only point is I think we could have paid less for Dwill and CJ and still retained them.I am very happy to retain those guys..I was just hoping we could have spent a little less and picked up a cb or DT.Hey...I know it is easier to say after watching where other FAs were paid to complain.The majic number for CJ was a tough call..still think we could have him and Dwill for less.

[Catalyst]

How many teams do you know that carry that amount of extensions? It just doesn't happen. It stops you extending anyone in two to three years and forces you to make cuts on people you ideally want to keep.

Yeah, but the situation here was unique. We had a large number of core players coming up for extensions and with the lockout on the horizon we couldn't lock them up over the course of 2-3 years like most teams do.

We're not handing out any more extensions than anyone else, it just seems that way since we're catching up on 2 years worth of them because of the lockout.

[ThePantherDude]

1. Agreed, but it's subjective. It also is a lot of money, but I am happy with the contract.

2. Debatable, he's got his flaws and he has some very inconsistent games. What makes him valuable is his leadership. I would be more inclined to say he is in the top 5 4-3 MLBs.

3. Olsen is top 15-20 in the passing game only. He is useless as a blocker.

4. That is homerism at it's best. TD hasn't played in two years and Anderson has one good season out of five.

5. Agreed that losing the wasted spot is good, however we didn't need to spend $12million on an inconsistent field goal kicker who is only 3 years younger than a much better field goal kicker.

6. Agreed, but we possibly have a better running back on the roster already. That said I am unsure if Goodson was actually all that good as a runner last year.

7. Agreed.

There are counter arguments to virtually every move he has made, so it's only a knock out to some. If you saw the Redskins doing exactly what we have done, what would your reaction be?

I believe we are a better team, however I also think we didn't need to take quite so many big financial risks.

Beason is widely considered to be #2 in MLB behind Willis. He is athletic always has tons of tackles, and has great leadership.

We signed a blocked TE by the name of Hartsock, so getting Olsen was just a bonus.

Anderson and Davis weren't in the Top 10 of OLB who were free agents this year? Then who the hell was? Posluszny and Ruud are MLB as is Stewart Bradley.

We gave all the guys a lot of money not being reckless but because we had to spend it somewhere, hell look at the Bucs they have a poo ton of money left and will have to spend it on average players.

If I saw ANY team do what we did I would say wow they are doing a good job. Esp. if they had our record from last year and our cap room.

[panthers55]

Hurney spent what he felt he had to spent in order to retain his people. Unless you were part of the negotiations it is naive to believe that you know anything about whether they were too much or not. You don't know what other offers were out there or not.

Comparing our contracts to NE's contracts with Ocho and Haynesworth is beyond ridiculous. NE picked guys frankly no one else wanted or could manage. Of course they got them for cheap. No one else is likely to have been able to manage them.

As for CJ for example. Based on last year he was one of the top 5 DEs in the league. Sure it was one year but that is how the NFL goes. So he is getting huge bucks. But he is about where you have to be to lock up a top 5 talent. If he gets 11 sacks again it will seem like a good deal. Same with Beason. Did we overpay for Davis and Anderson?? Lets see how they play. Hurney thinks they are very good and paid accordingly. I would rather have them in camp than having a situation like Chris Johnson in Tennessee where he is a great talent and sitting out rather than pay for peanuts.

Finally, why are many of you butt hurt as if it was your money?? Richardson paid what he had to and he seems fine with it or they wouldn't have done the deal. Hurney just did what Richardson wanted him to do. Sign your core group and be aggressive in FA. We did and we were.

I think Hurney did a great job. After signing no one the past 2 years we did a great job letting our young guys know that if they produce and work hard, we will reward them with long term contracts. Exactly what guys like Stewart needed to know when his time comes. Up to now we were signaling that once your rookie contract was up and we couldn't keep you as a RFA, we would cut you or let you go.

Hurney did a good job and exactly what I wanted him to do. I don't understand folks who are bitching. We still have cap room at this point and aren't done.

[Jangler]

The Redskins always overpay. Same goes for the Raiders. Look at the clusterf**k the Cowboys put themselves in this year. The Panthers have always pushed right up to the line, year after year. And yet most of the time don't get into any trouble. (Delhomme and Peppers oooopps) not worried.

[CatMan72]

CJ and Ray Edwards are close in terms of talent? LOL

Ray Edwards was playing off Jared Allen (to whom everybody was sliding protection) and the Williams wall and had 8 sacks.

CJ was playing off Tyler "no sacks" Brayton and the Teal turnstile and had 11.5 sacks.

[Brandon]

The important question is who would we have signed had they walked? What message does that send the team if we let some of the best players leave only to sign inferior replacements in the hopes of saving money?

These are not old vets with 2-3 useful years left, these are guys with 5-10 years left in the tank who are some of the better players in their positions.

[GotSwag?]

I know we still have needs but man, one year has made a difference in the excitement of the Carolina Panthers. I couldnt be any happier with what Hurney has done.

Has he overpaid? Yes but Richardson and Hurney have planned this for quite a while IMO and they are determined to make the Panthers one of the best teams in the NFL once again...you look at our team and IDK about you, but I can see us being one of those in a few years.

Good job Hurney

[MHS831]

I agree with the logic of signing your core--that is not the issue. He had enough $$ to fill in every need. DW was not a good signing. At 32, will he be as good as he is now? How good is he now?

Does everyone realize that we could have had Seattle DT Brandon Mebane for what we paid DW? Hard to understand their strategy.

THe Olsen trade was the best. I give him that one.

[Davidson Deac II]

If we start winning some, then yes. If we are still terrible, then no.

[MHS831]

If we still have not addressed DT properly and CB, 2 of our biggest needs coming in, and we had tons of cash to work with, how can anyone said he did a great job? He did a great job retaining our core-something I see as very important. I realize we are not done, and there is still room, but 2 of our biggest needs were not met. We probably do not need role players at those positions. We need quality starters.

I realize we aren't finished, but the question was asked now. With the money he had to work with, he did most of what we expected and what was needed. However, I have heard people with no dog in the fight criticize his spending more than I have heard objective people support it. Nobody knows until the investment returns start pouring in. So if you say he did a great job, I would say, "He spent well over $100 million in guaranteed money retaining 4 players and extending one. Bravo."

We still do not have a quality, starting caliber 3 technique and the NT is on the downslope of his career. Our 4th round draft pick is going to the PUP and our nickel is playing outside. Aside from cuts, most quality CBs are gone. Too soon for optimism, that is all I am saying.