Panthers need to make move at CB

[CRA]

But, his results were not average....he was better than average.

um, his numbers last year show he was middle of the pack. B/c he averaged a yard more than the league average or whatever it is still IS NOT impressive unless you have been watching Robinson, Goings, Gamble, etc. the past few seasons. He also had GREAT blocking and couldn't do anything w/ it.....the kicker is Jones' worst nightmare....most return guys look forward to seeing a kicker.

How many games did Miller get to play in last season? How many points did he put up on the board in comparison? I think the pro bowl return man who is still VERY young is a worthwhile gamble considering we also need competition at CB. Also, Miller had better numbers last year than Mr. Jones.

[panthers55]

um, his numbers last year show he was middle of the pack. B/c he averaged a yard more than the league average or whatever it is still IS NOT impressive unless you have been watching Robinson, Goings, Gamble, etc. the past few seasons. He also had GREAT blocking and couldn't do anything w/ it.....the kicker is Jones' worst nightmare....most return guys look forward to seeing a kicker.

How many games did Miller get to play in last season? How many points did he put up on the board in comparison? I think the pro bowl return man who is still VERY young is a worthwhile gamble considering we also need competition at CB. Also, Miller had better numbers last year than Mr. Jones.

Didn't see that much of Miller so I don't have an opinion about him. But Jones was solid but unspectacular. As for great blocking, as a returner you set up your blocking particularly on punts. Sure there is a side or area you are planning to run the return but in the end you have to see the field and pick your lanes. On punts you also have to make the first guy miss since many times they are right there when you catch it. Jones also did a good job of that as well.

Having watched Steve Smith return punts and Michael Bates return kickoffs, many of us know what great returners look like. And you are right in that Jones is not great.

Still we will bring Jones to camp and he will compete with Robinson and whoever else we pick up. If Miller is cheap we might look at him as well but won't spend a bunch of money. I expect we will bring in several guys for competition.

If Miller is the next coming, why hasn't anyone picked him up and why was he let go to begin with? Asking lots of money or something else??

[CRA]

Didn't see that much of Miller so I don't have an opinion about him. But Jones was solid but unspectacular. As for great blocking, as a returner you set up your blocking particularly on punts. Sure there is a side or area you are planning to run the return but in the end you have to see the field and pick your lanes. On punts you also have to make the first guy miss since many times they are right there when you catch it. Jones also did a good job of that as well.

Having watched Steve Smith return punts and Michael Bates return kickoffs, many of us know what great returners look like. And you are right in that Jones is not great.

Still we will bring Jones to camp and he will compete with Robinson and whoever else we pick up. If Miller is cheap we might look at him as well but won't spend a bunch of money. I expect we will bring in several guys for competition.

If Miller is the next coming, why hasn't anyone picked him up and why was he let go to begin with? Asking lots of money or something else??

Miller was a pro bowl returner the year before he got hurt in NY (which was also his last) He also had a better KR average (and a couple of homeruns -2) than Jones last season playing part of the season in Oak.

I don't care if they don't go after Milller. I DO care if Carolina does what they most likely will do and have done......that is let a bunch of medicore/average/unproven guys battle for the spot. With the defense being what it is, we need to kick ST up a notch - and it can be a cheap fix if we don't wait until the decent options are off the table.

[PanthersfaninSC63]

The only reason Southkaklaky or whatever is hating on Miller because MILLER is and will always be a CLEMSON TIGER and like all COOTS their jealous and hate anything to do with Clemson because we hand them their ass every year the sat after thanksgiving. After that Miller does play CB and is a really good border line amazing kick returner. Ohh and as for your draft Captain thing please no...the last thing we need is a thug like comes from that poo hole in Cootlumbia.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

C.J WILSON IS THE FUTURE

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Chris Carr

[Sandy Claws]

um, his numbers last year show he was middle of the pack. B/c he averaged a yard more than the league average or whatever it is still IS NOT impressive unless you have been watching Robinson, Goings, Gamble, etc. the past few seasons. He also had GREAT blocking and couldn't do anything w/ it.....the kicker is Jones' worst nightmare....most return guys look forward to seeing a kicker.

How many games did Miller get to play in last season? How many points did he put up on the board in comparison? I think the pro bowl return man who is still VERY young is a worthwhile gamble considering we also need competition at CB. Also, Miller had better numbers last year than Mr. Jones.

Miller returned kicks not punts. Jones does both resulting in a spare roster spot for a kick-off specialist (2 kickers).

Miller averaged .8 yard/return more than Jones. I guess it's only significant when it's for your side of the debate. Your statement was that Jones was avaerage at best. I proved you wrong with facts. Now you state it repeatedly as an opinion./

Jones had a 20 yard return 27 out of 40 times. That's 67.5% of the time. Miller was 19 out of 32 or 59.2%. That means Miller had 1 big return to boost his average.

Miller also had a fumble. Jones had none.

Pimp him all you want. I'd take Jones over him. You're too caught up in 1 or 2 plays that made highlights. jones is far more consistent.

[southcakalac]

The only reason Southkaklaky or whatever is hating on Miller because MILLER is and will always be a CLEMSON TIGER and like all COOTS their jealous and hate anything to do with Clemson because we hand them their ass every year the sat after thanksgiving. After that Miller does play CB and is a really good border line amazing kick returner. Ohh and as for your draft Captain thing please no...the last thing we need is a thug like comes from that sh*t hole in Cootlumbia.

First of all, I am not hating on Miller. I think if its not broken don't fix it. Bring him in if you think he is the next big thing and let him compete. So get your poo straight before you go mouthing off.

I'm sorry that you feel that way about Columbia. I mean damn Clemson is sooo nice let me tell you. There aint poo there! I'm sorry that you are upset that Clemson can't win in a weak ass conference. That has to be the reason why you are so mad.

As far as Captain Munnerlyn goes his play speaks volumes and he is not a thug. But you my friend are an nothing but the Clemson trash I have gotten used to. "Cootlumbia" is that the best you could come up with? Come on man, use those two brain cells to there fullest.

[Sandy Claws]

Come on man, use those two brain cells to there fullest.

Actually, that's about all you'll get.

[Fox007]

Miller returned kicks not punts. Jones does both resulting in a spare roster spot for a kick-off specialist (2 kickers).

Miller averaged .8 yard/return more than Jones. I guess it's only significant when it's for your side of the debate. Your statement was that Jones was avaerage at best. I proved you wrong with facts. Now you state it repeatedly as an opinion./

Jones had a 20 yard return 27 out of 40 times. That's 67.5% of the time. Miller was 19 out of 32 or 59.2%. That means Miller had 1 big return to boost his average.

Miller also had a fumble. Jones had none.

Pimp him all you want. I'd take Jones over him. You're too caught up in 1 or 2 plays that made highlights. jones is far more consistent.

Just so you're up to date, Jones is no longer on our roster.

[Sandy Claws]

Just so you're up to date, Jones is no longer on our roster.

If you were to actually start at the beginning rather than jumping into the middle, you would find that I already posted

Re-sign Jones, leave Miller where ever he is.

That should make it pretty clear that I know he's not signed (anywhere) making him a FA.

BTW: Ryne Robinson is, for 2 more years even, and will be our kick and punt return man.

[CRA]

BTW: Ryne Robinson is, for 2 more years even, and will be our kick and punt return man.

good idea, that way after our 1 year of having an somewhat respectable return game...........we go back to having one of the worst if not the worst return games in the NFL. Oh wait,............. he has potential right?

Miller is a proven playmaker and great return man (that is a fact)....yet you think it is a better option to go w/ unproven or avg guys? That might work if we had a better defense but need to be making plays on ST. Again, I don't care if they don't go after Miller. I DO care if they continue to let average and unproven guys compete each year for the spot giving us an average to below average return threat.

[mantal]

CB is fine, forget it. They were exposed when the defensive line totally broke down. In our scheme and our new one, we count on the defensive line to get ALL of the pass rush. When they don't, we get what we see...

[Sandy Claws]

good idea, that way after our 1 year of having an somewhat respectable return game...........we go back to having one of the worst if not the worst return games in the NFL. Oh wait,............. he has potential right?

Miller is a proven playmaker and great return man (that is a fact)....yet you think it is a better option to go w/ unproven or avg guys? That might work if we had a better defense but need to be making plays on ST. Again, I don't care if they don't go after Miller. I DO care if they continue to let average and unproven guys compete each year for the spot giving us an average to below average return threat.

Dude, you are the only one talking "potential" here, as in Miller could potentially return to the same calibre of play following his injury. I won't call it Pro-bowl level because it was not excessively spectacular. You are too caught up in a couple flashy plays which isn't Panther/Fox football.

When I mentioned Robinson, it was because he is signed and is a Fox pick. He also has a higher percentage of his returns for over 20 yards than Miller and , like Jones, returns kicks and punts saving a roster spot. Those are facts, not opinions.

You started pimping miller as a CB then swapped to return man when you got no support. Are you sure you're not his agent? His mom maybe?