Why not: Sign JT and trade JP

[Carolina_Pride]

Yes, Jason Taylor is past his prime and yes he will want some decent cash. Alot less than Peppers and is a decent fill in til we can find permanent starter. I say we ink JT for 2 years and trade Peppers for for a 1st and 2nd or in Pats case both their 2nds and a third. I think the second option is great cause we can fill alot of holes that way. Pats would be more inclined do that b/c they would still be able to keep their first rounder.

[The Answer]

Idk, I don't like having two stop gaps starting at defensive ends. I love the nutcracker but he won't last too long and who knows how Charles Johnson or Hilee Taylor will pan out.

[ashehudson]

Because we currently do not have the ability to trade Peppers until he signs the franchise tender.

[chollar8]

Oh God.

[Jangler]

Oh God.

[chollar8]

hahahahahhaha classic.

[CatMan72]

JT is used up, I don't care what he says about how he's gonna have a big comeback this year - his body is breaking down on him... no thanks.

We have some young talent we need to develop in both Charles Johnson and Hilee Taylor. Charles Johnson had more sacks last year as a backup than Jason Taylor did as a starter!

WE can't trade Peppers until he signs is tender, but we have the non-exclusive tag on him and his agent is running around right now trying to find an offer sheet the Panthers would agree to. The Panthers have taken the position that they are perfectly happy to keep Peppers around if his agent can't find a trade they like.

Lets not turn into the Cowboys or the Redskins here (neither of which made the playoffs by the way) by bringing in all these aging stars... we build through the draft and look for bargans late in free agency to fill in gaps and build depth. We went 12-4 last year and have all 22 starters coming back.... we're sitting pretty.

[rayzor]

Because we currently do not have the ability to trade Peppers until he signs the franchise tender.

it is not and has not been us who has to work out the trade.

we don't franchise so we can trade. we franchise to keep players we don't want to lose. we didn't want to lose peppers so we slapped a tag on that big forehead that said "panther's property."

if he wants to play somewhere else he and that agent of his has to go out and find a trade partner willing to give us what he wants.

the burden is on peppers...not us.

[ashehudson]

it is not and has not been us who has to work out the trade.

we don't franchise so we can trade. we franchise to keep players we don't want to lose. we didn't want to lose peppers so we slapped a tag on that big forehead that said "panther's property."

if he wants to play somewhere else he and that agent of his has to go out and find a trade partner willing to give us what he wants.

the burden is on peppers...not us.

Ahhh, so please correct the Patriots....

There is a difference in how things are suppose to work and how they actually work.

I never said that the Panthers were going to trade him if he signed, I stated a fact that we can't trade him.

Edit: And there is a burden on all the parties involved, not just Peppers and his agent.

[rayzor]

Ahhh, so please correct the Patriots....

There is a difference in how things are suppose to work and how they actually work.

I never said that the Panthers were going to trade him if he signed, I stated a fact that we can't trade him.

Edit: And there is a burden on all the parties involved, not just Peppers and his agent.

(wasn't necessarily aimed at you, ashehudson)

panthers don't want him to leave. why is that so hard to grasp? they want him to stay so they tagged him. doesn't matter what other teams are doing. that is what the panthers did.

their intention is as it has always been and that is to keep peppers as a panther as long as they can.

if peppers truly wants to go play somewhere else then he can go find a trade partner. the panthers aren't going to go around and do that. that isn't their job. if peppers signs the tender then it is something that the panthers can work to do (even though i don't think they would).

the pats never had any intention of keeping cassel. they franchised him simply to get some trade value from him. it wasn't much (because he wasn't worth it) but it worked.

the pats and the panthers are working from two totally different angles. don't expect the same results and don't expect that both should have the same results.

[pantherclaw]

Peppers doesn't need to sign his franchise contract. If he does that, he's pretty much locked into that 1 year contract.

He and his agent are free to get him to sign a offer sheet from another team.

Wish people would get facts straight before talking out of their ass.

As far as this thread, I wouldn't mind Jason Taylor, AND Peppers lined up.

I wonder if Taylor will keep his head in football this off season.

[pantherclaw]

Oh, and Peppers doesn't HAVE to sign his franchise contract until late June or early July.

[Davidson Deac II]

Wouldn't mind getting Taylor, but not for the money he is going to want.

But if the Skins are willing to take Peppers for a first round pick, then that would be great.

[Jangler]

Agreed. There was a handshake deal out the door for Cassel.

I'm sure Pepppers agent is trying to find a team... as I said before they overestimated his worth and now are probably scrambling on what to do next.