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The Biggest Losers: Carolina

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theyhateme45 Newbie

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Most of the huddles does not agree because anytime someone says anything negative about the panthers we think they are stupid, wrong, or senseless.

However, he makes valid points rather you agree or not.

Johnson and anderson deals he said are defensible but for the price it is definitely a risk. The office is gambling they will continue to produce and improve.

What he said about the davis deal is relavant. We did have him under contract for this year, and he is coming off of 2 major injuries. Even if he does stay healthy, we have no idea if he will return to his form two years ago. - Valid argument

D- Will - is a 28 year old RB. RB's have shorter NFL useful lives than they use to, and young RB's are producing results and being picked up cheap in the draft. It's a lot on $$$ in the position and another valid argument.

Mare - I think most huddlers agree.

So there is nothing that he said that was just completely off target and invalid.

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PntherPryd Rookie

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Every deal is a one year deal, if that. All that matters to the players is the guaranteed money. The rest is for the bean counters.

Interesting to read all the opinions about how teams overpaid for this guy or that. Welcome to the new NFL. Teams will have to spend on their in-house players or specifically targetted FA's.... why not spend on the guys you want on your team instead of the castoff's from other teams?

Every team is negotiating right now to lock their core players long term. The Panthers got a jump on it but I don't expect they will be the only team that getting slammed by wannabe internet GM's until people realize it's a brand new (contract) world out there.

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DevilCat Newbie

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Firstly, attacking the TD signing is silly. Clearly, we have some kind of safety net on the deal in case he gets injured again.

Secondly, I agree with the Mare part, if it weren't with such a condescending douche bag tone.

Lastly, I can understand someone saying we may have overpaid a bit, but to say we didn't improve ourselves by doing so is ludicrous.

If any of these guys had gone to any other team, the media would automatically deem that team "improved."

I think the media is generally upset that these players "turned down the oppurtunity" to go play for a team like Dallas or New England or whoever, after the media has spent the whole offseason making Richardson the bad guy in the whole CBA deal..They really expected these players to get the heck outta dodge asap, and now they are just confused and frustrated when their opinions on the issue turned out to be false..

Afterall, who is more likely to garner attention from the media... New England Patriot DeAngelo Williams, or Carolina Panther DeAngelo Williams..?

They are just confused that our big name guys didn't care for the glitz and glamor..

^^^THIS!.. The national media wanted D-Will to leave so bad hey could taste it. It's breaking their hearts that a small market southern team is on the rise.

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Sloth Apprentice

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Charles Johnson:

The top FA DE. Had serious thoughts of signing with his hometown team which was also a division rival. This did drive up the price a little. Still unsure why people had a problem with the money here, good DE's get paid big bucks.

James Anderson:

Homegrown talent that had a very good year. Got a decent contract and we keep one of our guys.

Thomas Davis:

Raise your hand if you think the Panthers are unaware of his injury history and/or didn't make him a very easy cut should he get injured again.

DeAngelo Williams:

If you don't actually follow our team this looks like a bad signing. For one, he looks like an injury risk. You don't realize that he could have finished out last year but was benched to play it safe/protect him in a throwaway year. Second, you see his age and freak out because he's going to hit the wall soon, not really processing the fact that Turner has more carries with the Falcons than Williams has in his career. Stephen Jackson had more carries the last three season than Williams in his career. As for his salary.. he's a top 5 back and got paid.

Anyways, whatever. Seems the author decided to take the negatives to the extreme.

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Seems like a fact based article with a few educated opinions based on those facts. I don't expect people to agree with his opinions but I am curious what specifically in the article people find so absurd to call him a dumbass and a hater?

'As a starter, Williams has made it through a 16-game season without getting hurt exactly once.'

skewed and in turn tried to help his bashing of said contract.

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Firstly, attacking the TD signing is silly. Clearly, we have some kind of safety net on the deal in case he gets injured again.

Secondly, I agree with the Mare part, if it weren't with such a condescending douche bag tone.

Lastly, I can understand someone saying we may have overpaid a bit, but to say we didn't improve ourselves by doing so is ludicrous.

If any of these guys had gone to any other team, the media would automatically deem that team "improved."

I think the media is generally upset that these players "turned down the oppurtunity" to go play for a team like Dallas or New England or whoever, after the media has spent the whole offseason making Richardson the bad guy in the whole CBA deal..They really expected these players to get the heck outta dodge asap, and now they are just confused and frustrated when their opinions on the issue turned out to be false..

Afterall, who is more likely to garner attention from the media... New England Patriot DeAngelo Williams, or Carolina Panther DeAngelo Williams..?

They are just confused that our big name guys didn't care for the glitz and glamor..

Yes Dwill was a lot of $$, but think about it this way.

We will need him in the long run to get Cam ready to run our offense. The running game is going to be saving us for a little while and we are going to have to lean back on it while our passing game is getting better.

He is also getting us break away yards and TDs. Stewart is giving us the power runs, getting those extra couple of yards, bouncing off tackles, but DWill is the one getting the break away and scoring TDs. Yeah Stewart scores, but Dwill is more likely to be that break away running back whereas Stewart is getting us those power plays.

I think DWill was worth it to stay in Carolina. Double Trouble is the best running tandem in the NFL currently and I would have hated to separate the 2. Just my opinion, but Im happy DT is back in action

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hepcat Grand Master

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Charles Johnson: Had to pay him to keep him from signing somewhere else. Rather overpay him to stay in Carolina than to see him play for Atlanta. He's young (25) and has big upside. Even if the move doesn't work out, it was the right decision at the time.

Deangelo Williams: This move was stupid. Reminds me a lot of the Delhomme deal. Deangelo played in 6 games in 2010 and only averaged 4.1 ypc after averaging 5+ the previous 3 seasons. He's got a TON of miles on him from college and the pros. With Jonathan Stewart, Mike Goodson, and Sutton already on the roster, there was no need to bring him back. As good of a dude as he is, his best playing days are likely behind him.

James Anderson: I'm okay with this. Didn't break the bank and Anderson had a great season. Right move.

Olindo Mare: Likely a move to save a roster spot, but my theory is they were moving out a guy in Kasay who had close ties to the previous regime and was considered a team leader. Could have divided loyalties in the locker room...just a theory though. Mare was a guy who would shore up the kicker spot for a few years and also handle kickoffs.

Thomas Davis: If there are clauses in the contract that protect the team against him getting injured again, then it wasn't a terrible signing. But it was totally unnecessary. He was under contract for 2011 and they had a chance to see if his twice-injured knee had healed and if he was the same player. I guess they are hoping he comes back and lights it up and it justifies locking him up before his return to greatness, but I don't think it works out...

Overall I think Hurney has punched a ticket out of town with these moves...Richardson likely gave the go-ahead to resign the teams core FA's, but did he say at all costs? I think the article is valid. Terrible moves overall. Not keeping the players, but for the amount of $$ they spent, it's too high of a risk with little possible reward.

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