The Official Lockout is over thread/ Done Deal!

[ThePantherDude]

Funny how the owners ratify a deal and give the players until Tuesday to accept it.

But then make a stink that they didn't stamp it immediately. Even though the players had not seen it and they gave them until Tuesday.

So the players actually take the time to read it, like you would in any negotiation, find it acceptable and are going to ratify it.

Thursday every moron was up in arms that the players were trying to ruin the deal when all they were doing was what anyone would do when presented a final version of a 10 year contract.

Listening to sports radio today the tide has turned back against the owners and their "games."

No surprise here.

Yeah how dare the owners approve a deal that BOTH sides have been negotiating for 4+ months. I am getting tired of hearing "The player have to know what it says." BS, they were working on negotiations of it, so unless they were busy playing angry birds they must have a rough to good idea of what the CBA said.

The players tried saying the owners were inserting stuff that wasn't agreed upon but everything I read said that the CBA benefits players more than owners, so why then are the players acting so damn butthurt that the owners want to get this done.

Players were dumbasses for decertifying and they were dumbasses who tried getting the media and fans on their sides. Plus people must be forgetting that Gene Upshaw did this last time and the owners were pressured into the deal.

Both sides have been bad but When Wed. rolled around the players sat on their lazy asses and did nothing even though they were supposed to vote. Then Friday rolls around the owners stick to what they say, vote and all say yes to it. So why should people feel sad for the players? Because they only make 5x more than any of us and not 10-15x like the owners?

[The Saltman]

not what you said last week.

[ED-209]

can suck my big brown coc

[blackcatgrowl]

Funny how the owners ratify a deal and give the players until Tuesday to accept it.

Maybe it's so there can be a free agency and most if not all of the preseason?

I love your lame attempt to demonize the owners is kind of sad.

[antame]

The Owners were in the right, the league thought they had a handshake deal in place with the players and were under the belief that the players would vote the same day. Players didn't get the CBA paperwork in time and couldn't vote.

A lot of those tweets you read were false, some of those players said some things before they got the CBA draft.

They were supposed to get the draft earlier...

It's a who do you believe game and will be a game of one up till it's signed.

Also the Players seeming to not want to be a union again is funny, they knew when this started and they de certified that they would have to re certify for a CBA to be finalized. They just playing games as well.

Bullpoo. NFL owners were not right to do that. It was dishonest, opportunistic and unethical. If you're comfortable doing business that way, well I don't think there's much to discuss. I certainly won't be buying a car from you.

I've never tweeted, retweeted or even read a tweet that wasn't quoted in a news item and even those I ignore, so I don't particularly care about that.

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Not really.

"Players seeming to not want to be a union again?" I assume you mean they don't want to recertify until they're sure they've reached a deal. That's not a game that's common sense.

[Captain Obvious]

Dear NFL,

I hate you all.

Not sincerely yours,

Capt. Obvious

[antame]

1) FYI- according to the owners they had a hand shake agreement.

2) The players were supposed to be voting Wednesday or Thursday before the owners... but some needed more time ect.

3) It was no surprise, we had heard for days the owners were planning on voting on what they had thursday

4) The owners were all together and showing a sense of urgency to get things done as not to start missing pre season games, and have time for all other off season activities that needs to be done.

5) If the players ratify the agreement, it just shows the the owners only agreed to what has all ready been agreed to by the two parties... the players are just dragging it out some.

6) If you just listen to the players, you will notice they have very poor communications among each other right now. Very poor.

1) Exactly. See my post above.

2) Ok.

3) Maybe, but I'm pretty sure they weren't supposed to publicly present it as though a deal had been reached. And they might have had the courtesy to let the players' side SEE what they'd agreed upon first.

4) This is a pile of bullpoo. Are you suggesting we're supposed to stand up and cheer NFL owners' "sense of urgency" in ensuring preseason games? Sure, they want their preseason games, they make money from them. Everyone else hates them.

5) This is just plain stupid big picture, though I'll grant you players probably aren't eager to play preseason games or deal with training camp.

6) I don't listen to players, and I don't listen to owners. I listen to/read credible sources and try and vet this information the best I can, then apply general human and business sense.

[Vampire the buffet slayer]

1) 6) I don't listen to players, and I don't listen to owners. I listen to/read credible sources and try and vet this information the best I can, then apply general human and business sense.

one of those credible sources njpanther?

[antame]

one of those credible sources njpanther?

Is njpanther the girl undressing in your av for Captain what's-his-name? If so, then yes, she's a credible source.

[antame]

Sig, sorry, I meant sig. Right?

[Vampire the buffet slayer]

Thats my sig, at first i thought you meant chris farley,lol.

[Happy Panther]

Both sides have been bad but When Wed. rolled around the players sat on their lazy asses and did nothing even though they were supposed to vote.

Why were they supposed to vote Wednesday?

[Vampire the buffet slayer]

well.....espn said....

[ThePantherDude]

Why were they supposed to vote Wednesday?

It was supposed to be to recertify and then Thurs. both sides would have voted to end the lockout from what I could tell from news sources and whatnot. But not only did they do none of it they are still stalling. The owners had said they had a handshake agreement with the PA. Which is why everyone thought Thursday/Friday when they voted it would go through, only players were busy trying to figure out how to spend their sneaky insurance DS got for them and completely let it blow by.