The Official Lockout is over thread/ Done Deal!

[ncguy2184]

I hope this bites the players in the ass!

[Claws]

You know he wants to.

Depends. Motel 6 or Ritz Carlton?

[beastson]

I think the players are in a pretty bad spot. If they drag this out to the point that games are missed I don't think its ridiculous to expect to hear more boos than cheers the first time they take the field.

And I love it when I actually agree with BCG. Just proves to myself that I'm not just trolling him when we disagree.

Lol go to a game and boo the players

Then cheer for them

[Happy Panther]

Bullsh!t.

The owners ratified a proposal which had been in negotiation for over a month.

The whole point is that they ratified a different version. The owners obviously snuck in items that were never agreed upon and then acted surprised when the players didn't immediately sign on.

At the least the players should be allowed to read the proposal if it has unexpected agreements in it.

It is school boy tactics and too bad some fans are falling for it.

[Claws]

Obviously

[countryboi]

The whole point is that they ratified a different version. The owners obviously snuck in items that were never agreed upon and then acted surprised when the players didn't immediately sign on.

At the least the players should be allowed to read the proposal if it has unexpected agreements in it.

It is school boy tactics and too bad some fans are falling for it.

all that is well and good but right now i just want them to sign the damn thing cause i want some football

[Happy Panther]

all that is well and good but right now i just want them to sign the damn thing cause i want some football

We all do.

[blackcatgrowl]

The whole point is that they ratified a different version. The owners obviously snuck in items that were never agreed upon and then acted surprised when the players didn't immediately sign on.

At the least the players should be allowed to read the proposal if it has unexpected agreements in it.

It is school boy tactics and too bad some fans are falling for it.

Use some common sense man. Don't just buy into the BS Dumbass Smith is selling. He's a lawyer dude. He's trained to lie.

The Union Decertified after negotiations broke down on March 11th. They went from the negotiation table as a Union to being a Trade Organization helping the players form a class-action lawsuit in less than an hour.

If you read this and think the NFLPA* is being honest to the public here, you either taking their side for a vested interest, or are ignorant to the facts.

Here is a writer's take on it that I agree with...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/don_banks/07/22/thursday-labor-developments/

There are elements of Thursday's bizarre turn of events that just make no sense to me, no matter how much backstory I hear. How is it that everyone seemed to be on the same page regarding the negotiating timetable needed to save the entire four weeks of the full preseason schedule, but then when the owners seemingly met that timetable and voted on their half of the deal, the players reacted like the whole effort was a rushed and thrown-together affair that didn't correspond to their timetable? Were you two even really talking to one another on those phones and at those negotiation sessions?

How is it that anyone can seriously think or propose that in this day and age that it has to take up to two weeks for the players to recertify as a union? Just because that timeline helps support the thesis that the NFLPA decertified in a thoughtful and sober manner back in March, and might have to again in some future labor negotiation, doesn't make it a plausible explanation. It's transparently ridiculous. What happened to the "Let us Play'' chant that the players side trumpeted back in January and February? Apparently they're not in as big a rush to get back on the field as they first portrayed, because all those signature cards have to be hand collected.

Let's see what comes if the players do indeed vote on the owners' proposal on Friday, as has been reported. Let's see if either side can see the forest for the trees. The owners seem to be offering a pretty good deal to the players on many fronts, but the players say there are unresolved issues of import to them, and they want more concessions in several areas. That's fine. Negotiate the final points and finish the deal, getting to that elusive ground where both sides can walk away and feel semi-good about themselves and what they accomplished.

But finish it. Now. In the coming few days. Get over the emotion of Thursday's drama and put the 2011 season back on track for August and beyond. Otherwise the pieces may prove too difficult to even pick up the next time. Humpty Dumpty style.

[TruCatzFan]

^This

[Happy Panther]

Use some common sense man. Don't just buy into the BS Dumbass Smith is selling. He's a lawyer dude. He's trained to lie.

The Union Decertified after negotiations broke down on March 11th. They went from the negotiation table as a Union to being a Trade Organization helping the players form a class-action lawsuit in less than an hour.

If you read this and think the NFLPA* is being honest to the public here, you either taking their side for a vested interest, or are ignorant to the facts.

Here is a writer's take on it that I agree with...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/don_banks/07/22/thursday-labor-developments/

You are arguing a bunch of things I have not commented upon.

[blackcatgrowl]

You are arguing a bunch of things I have not commented upon.

You said they "snuck in items" to the deal.

Do you even know what they are?

From what I've read the "items" that made the players balk, is the fact that it had some language about the NFLPA reforming, and had provisions about them agreeing to not decertify during labor talks at the end of the 10-year deal. It also had some provisions about settling the current outstanding lawsuits.

If that's not what you're talking about, by all means, share with us your "details".

Or maybe you didn't know all this?

[The Saltman]

Did jerry slip you a lifetime supply of Bojangles or something?

[blackcatgrowl]

Did jerry slip you a lifetime supply of Bojangles or something?

lol umadbro?

(what's up with the trolling salty? I'm just a well informed fan sharing knowledge.)

[The Saltman]

If I troll.

Trust me you would know it.