If we end up keeping Peppers one more year...

[AKPantherFan]

OK, I'm ready...

What you guys don't do is post visual evidence that he actually takes plays off. You whine and bitch about it, but never produce proof of it. I've stayed out of it for the most part, but a direct request for evidence was met with an "yes I got it" without supporting the request. I wanna know? Sure, he's been beat, every DE in the league has been. But we're talking intentionally taking plays/games off and I want to see evidence of that, not illusions and rehashed bullsh*t of that...

Just Watch NFL network today when they REPLAY the Panthers Giants game from this season.

You will see enough without me having to do any legwork. Conveniently enough its right there for you to enjoy.

Kiss my ass, Im not playing your reindeer game old man..

[AKPantherFan]

OK, I'm ready...

What you guys don't do is post visual evidence that he actually takes plays off. You whine and bitch about it, but never produce proof of it. I've stayed out of it for the most part, but a direct request for evidence was met with an "yes I got it" without supporting the request. I wanna know? Sure, he's been beat, every DE in the league has been. But we're talking intentionally taking plays/games off and I want to see evidence of that, not illusions and rehashed bullsh*t of that...

And its funny that you act like its some secret conspiracy theory.

Its not area 51, people noticed, GM's noticed, teams noticed..

Evidentially your head is to far up your ass to see?

Funny how everyones knocking down our door to land the "golden boy of Carolina"

[mantal]

Just Watch NFL network today when they REPLAY the Panthers Giants game from this season.

You will see enough without me having to do any legwork. Conveniently enough its right there for you to enjoy.

Kiss my ass, Im not playing your reindeer game old man..

And its funny that you act like its some secret conspiracy theory.

Its not area 51, people noticed, GM's noticed, teams noticed..

Evidentially your head is to far up your ass to see?

Funny how everyones knocking down our door to land the "golden boy of Carolina"

Funny how you chose to use insults and "see it elsewhere" instead of just answering the question. This from the man who put together a whole website simply to get the Panthers logo on the field...

[panthers2u]

OK, I'm ready...

What you guys don't do is post visual evidence that he actually takes plays off. You whine and bitch about it, but never produce proof of it. I've stayed out of it for the most part, but a direct request for evidence was met with an "yes I got it" without supporting the request. I wanna know? Sure, he's been beat, every DE in the league has been. But we're talking intentionally taking plays/games off and I want to see evidence of that, not illusions and rehashed bullsh*t of that...

If Pep were really taking plays off one would think that the players would be giving him h*ll. I'm watching how his team mates are responding on this to gauge what is really going on. I can't think of a better way to measure this.

From what I can tell, the idea of him taking off plays seems to be greatly exagerated.

[Squirrel]

If Pep were really taking plays off one would think that the players would be giving him h*ll. I'm watching how his team mates are responding on this to gauge what is really going on. I can't think of a better way to measure this.

From what I can tell, the idea of him taking off plays seems to be greatly exagerated.

So if he isnt taking plays off then he must suck because he got manhandled acouple times by players not as good as him. Last year teams hardly tried to double team him.

[OneBadassCat]

So if he isnt taking plays off then he must suck because he got manhandled acouple times by players not as good as him. Last year teams hardly tried to double team him.

Beason should just call him a bitch.

[panthers2u]

So if he isnt taking plays off then he must suck because he got manhandled acouple times by players not as good as him. Last year teams hardly tried to double team him.

No player is going to dominate 100% of the time. These big guys get out of breath from time to time. I mean, if you are saying that he only got manhandled a couple of times...that's not bad IMO.

Listen to what I'm saying...if Pep is really throwing defensive plays because he is not giving it a 100% the team will see that and you can bet that there will be "words" in the locker room.

[Squirrel]

No player is going to dominate 100% of the time. These big guys get out of breath from time to time. I mean, if you are saying that he only got manhandled a couple of times...that's not bad IMO.

Listen to what I'm saying...if Pep is really throwing defensive plays because he is not giving it a 100% the team will see that and you can bet that there will be "words" in the locker room.

For awhole game?

[Mr. Scot]

No player is going to dominate 100% of the time. These big guys get out of breath from time to time. I mean, if you are saying that he only got manhandled a couple of times...that's not bad IMO.

Listen to what I'm saying...if Pep is really throwing defensive plays because he is not giving it a 100% the team will see that and you can bet that there will be "words" in the locker room.

Granted, but I can't really recall guys like Charles Haley and Reggie White being shut out by backup tackles either.

[panthers2u]

For awhole game?

Which game?

[panthers2u]

Granted, but I can't really recall guys like Charles Haley and Reggie White being shut out by backup tackles either.

Seriously, if Pep is willingly taking off plays then he is toast. That means that the players and the staff all see it.

How much did he take off, was he sick, was he just having a bad day, was he told to stay in a ZD, did the play break down...these are all things I don't know.

What I'm saying, is that I'm not going to trash him non-stop on mere guesses and innuendo.

[Fireball77]

Granted, but I can't really recall guys like Charles Haley and Reggie White being shut out by backup tackles either.

Even that could happen every now and then, but Pep had a bunch of games against backups this year and IMO didn't take advantage of that situation as much as you would expect a guy of his talent level to do.

[User Name]

Even that could happen every now and then, but Pep had a bunch of games against backups this year and IMO didn't take advantage of that situation as much as you would expect a guy of his talent level to do.

The more I go over the game tape in my head :smilewinkgrin: I think Peps biggest problem is he lacks technique. All the guys we mention as being elite D-linemen had at least one strong weapon, either a strong club, rip, swim, or spin. LT had it all...

Pep seems to engage and try to push his way to the ball, this often stands him up and he appears to quit, also leads to him getting held a lot. Eh what do I know, anyone ever remember seeing Pep make an awesome move and leave a tackle grasping for air?

[panthers2u]

Even that could happen every now and then, but Pep had a bunch of games against backups this year and IMO didn't take advantage of that situation as much as you would expect a guy of his talent level to do.

These are the kind of statements that I can agree with. Yeah, Pep had some bad days and may have not given all he had on occasion. I'm saying, if that is true, there is locker room justice.

The statements of some posters on here though, basically saying that he is not worth spit are exagerated IMHO.