Breaking down the safeties: Carolina

[pantherclaw]

our dline play last year has nothing to do with our safetys taking bad angles and getting caught out of position.

Your right, all safeties can cover for 5, 10 seconds...can compensate for a weak defensive line.

Oh thank you for point that out.

Lol

[MWCarolina]

the safeties arent bad, they play well for what they have to help them, they arent Ed Reed types or Polamalu types, but they are good safeties and can and will make plays, give them help, but the safeties in Carolina isnt a weak spot.

[Montsta]

CRA hates Godfrey. Every thread about him is trashed with his comments about how bad he is. On a 2 -14 team last year he was an alternate to the pro bowl, and that's still not good enough for CRA, basically our safeties need to be Jesus and Mohammed for him to be happy.

I'm not partial either way in regards to Godfrey, but in CRA's defense, the ONLY reason Godfrey was a PB alternate last year was his INT's, half of which were gift-wrapped and dropped in his lap. I will give him credit on a few that I saw him make a 'ball-hawk' type play on the ball, but I distinctly remember several that either got tipped up or just fell in his lap.

[Chimera]

The entire defensive backfield has been bad for the past several years, save for a few incredible ball-hawking moments in late 2009.

[DaCityKats]

Your right, all safeties can cover for 5, 10 seconds...can compensate for a weak defensive line.

Oh thank you for point that out.

Lol

so if a safety takes a bad angle on a wr its the dline fault for not getting to the qb.? if a safety allows a TE to get even with him because he doesnt turn his hips it's the dl fault? i got your logic....................:rolleyes:

proper angles and getting caught out of position has nothing to do with dl play. play your responsiblitiy and be were you supposed to be.

[DaCityKats]

plus please show me a qb that can stand in the pocket for 5-10 seconds and il show you a pig that can fly.

[SorthNarolina]

The entire defensive backfield has been bad for the past several years, save for a few incredible ball-hawking moments in late 2009.

I can't really remember many incredibly ball hawking moments. I remember the 5 INT game by Freeman but that was just a rookie getting welcomed to the NFL.

I think the backfield has been pretty good and will only get better with Meeks staying as the sole Secondary coach.

I think the best thing about Meeks staying is the transition should be a lot easier with the former DC around to make things easier.

[SOJA]

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[Chimera]

I can't really remember many incredibly ball hawking moments. I remember the 5 INT game by Freeman but that was just a rookie getting welcomed to the NFL.

I think the backfield has been pretty good and will only get better with Meeks staying as the sole Secondary coach.

I think the best thing about Meeks staying is the transition should be a lot easier with the former DC around to make things easier.

Warner also had a 5 pick day.

I say they've been bad for a few reasons...

in 2008 that soft zone was garbage. We gave up 30+ how many times? More blame should go to the coaches than the players, but then again, you have to remember how truly awful they got at times (playoff game especially).

In 2009, Chris Harris was making some beautiful tackles... as long as he was in position. He did pick off Eli and Favre, though. It became very apparent that Gamble had fallen a long way since 2005. Godfrey... well, I just remember the whole backfield improved when he was injured.

2010 - I think I have a mental block. I really can't remember anything besides Clausen stinking it up.

[SorthNarolina]

Warner also had a 5 pick day.

I say they've been bad for a few reasons...

in 2008 that soft zone was garbage. We gave up 30+ how many times? More blame should go to the coaches than the players, but then again, you have to remember how truly awful they got at times (playoff game especially).

In 2009, Chris Harris was making some beautiful tackles... as long as he was in position. He did pick off Eli and Favre, though. It became very apparent that Gamble had fallen a long way since 2005. Godfrey... well, I just remember the whole backfield improved when he was injured.

2010 - I think I have a mental block. I really can't remember anything besides Clausen stinking it up.

lol me too. Also in early 2009 I was doing a different major with 18 hours and working about 25 hours mostly on the weekends. It stressed me out so bad I don't want to think any of the early 2009 games. Not until school was over did we start that nice little streak do those games bring back good memories. I didn't watch any games from 2009 except the first one.

[Catalyst]

If Martin has had the same problem (being out of position) since his rookie year, then that's more the coaching staff's fault than his. If a player has one singular main issue, it's the coaches job to ensure it gets fixed - or at least worked on.

I think many of our players, particularly on defense, will do better once Rivera and co. get in there and start working with them.

[panthers55]

I really doubt our secondary will change very much given that Meeks is still in charge. I hope that with better line play the secondary will look better. Obviously this year we will get to see whether Fox was the defensive guru or not.

[CRA]

CRA hates Godfrey. Every thread about him is trashed with his comments about how bad he is. On a 2 -14 team last year he was an alternate to the pro bowl, and that's still not good enough for CRA, basically our safeties need to be Jesus and Mohammed for him to be happy.

Oh noes!! CRA said Godfrey isn't a good S.

I don't hate Godfrey. There are tons of threads where I credit his talent and athletic ability. Kid just can't play S at the NFL at a consistant enough basis.

I am big fan of moving on when something doesn't work and there isn't enough potential shown to justify waiting for improved play.

Don't hand me that Godfrey pro bowl nonsense. You think DeAngelo Hall was a good CB last year?

[SOJA]

Oh noes!! CRA said Godfrey isn't a good S.

I don't hate Godfrey. There are tons of threads where I credit his talent and athletic ability. Kid just can't play S at the NFL at a consistant enough basis.

I am big fan of moving on when something doesn't work and there isn't enough potential shown to justify waiting for improved play.

Don't hand me that Godfrey pro bowl nonsense. You think DeAngelo Hall was a good CB last year?

Deadskins always get voted into the pro bowl, the fact that Godfrey is a panther, and we were fuging terrible last year is impressive