Rosario is a more efficient pass blocker than King...

[CatMan72]

...I think the other good news for Rosario is that Rivera remembers him quite well, LOL

[CRA]

:confused: they go through every game snap by snap and collect the stats. probably most detailed stats there are. definitely the most thorough stats anywhere. their "data" is just the result of their analysis of the stats.

they have the most clear picture of what is happening on the field than anyone available.

stats don't always reflect reality of situations.

also, a lot of there stats are based off of subjective opinions.....there are some examples on another site (granted it was a couple years ago) that illustrate how decieving just going off their stats was in certain cases. Maybe they have improved things......as now that you have to pay I am no longer exposed to them.

[pantherfan49]

This is an academic discussion at best cause Shockey is gonna come in and dominate.

[SorthNarolina]

did he even play last year?

didn't he have a big contested catch at the end of the 09 season?

I don't think so. I remember a catch in the vikings game. He did well adjusting to an inaccurate pass by Moore but the catch wasn't contested I don't even think the DB had his back turned but I can't really remember. I think Moore under threw the ball and DB didn't expect it. Still it was a good adjustment.

[CatMan72]

This is an academic discussion at best cause Shockey is gonna come in and dominate.

I think Shockey has a lot left in the tank, but the fact is he hasn't been able to stay healthy for a full season in a long time and even if he's able to stay healthy this year, he won't be playing every snap - especially in Chud's TE oriented offense... we're going to need a guy that can sub in for Shockey and be a threat in the passing game while holding his own as a blocker.

Before I saw these numbers, I assumed King was a far superior blocker to Rosario, but even though these numbers are skewed by some variables, they still show that Rosario is a far superior pass blocker to King.

[DaCityKats]

looking at what the OC wants to do, i believe King will be the odd man out.

[CRA]

I don't think so. I remember a catch in the vikings game. He did well adjusting to an inaccurate pass by Moore but the catch wasn't contested I don't even think the DB had his back turned but I can't really remember. I think Moore under threw the ball and DB didn't expect it. Still it was a good adjustment.

lol, I tried to search his "highlights" but I came up empty......

[jtm]

Rosario is the guy you see at the basketball court during practice dunking the ball every which way. But when the game starts, he can't make a lay-up.

[ncmonzta]

Shockey/Rosario/Barnidge should be the lineup for this season.

[Zaximus]

You can't even gauge how good at catching our TEs are. They never got passes thrown to them consistantly under Fox. When they had a pass coming their way, they didn't know what to do about it, cause it never happens. King got a lot of check downs but our other TEs never had many chances.

[I am Hubby]

Barnridge did not have a catch last year. However, in 09 he had 12 catches for a 20.2 yards per catch average. With a long of 55. But for the life of me I cannot remember a single one. Not sure what happened last year for him not to get a single reception, because I thought Fox and Hurney were very high on him.

Shockey, Rosario, and Barnridge sound good to me. And GOOOO PANTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[I am Hubby]

Rosario is the guy you see at the basketball court during practice dunking the ball every which way. But when the game starts, he can't make a lay-up.

Not sure where that came from because Rosario has made plenty of catches for the Panthers.:rolleyes5:

[rayzor]

Barnridge did not have a catch last year. However, in 09 he had 12 catches for a 20.2 yards per catch average. With a long of 55. But for the life of me I cannot remember a single one. Not sure what happened last year for him not to get a single reception, because I thought Fox and Hurney were very high on him.

Shockey, Rosario, and Barnridge sound good to me. And GOOOO PANTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d81526582/Gary-Barnidge-Highlight-WK-15-vs-Vikings-2009

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d813b6026/Gary-Barnidge-Highlight-WK-07-vs-Bills-2009?r_src=ramp

in training camp that year jake was throwing to him all the time. i thought for sure they had found something special. meanwhile jeff king was sucking it up and dropping to 3rd on the depth chart. only problem was fox/davidson and their loyalty to the older guys. when real game time came up, they went right back to their old ways.

i got no idea what happened with barnidge last year other than being yet another casualty that year of fox/davidson bad playcalling and offense.

[CRA]

Barnridge did not have a catch last year. However, in 09 he had 12 catches for a 20.2 yards per catch average. With a long of 55. But for the life of me I cannot remember a single one. Not sure what happened last year for him not to get a single reception, because I thought Fox and Hurney were very high on him.

Shockey, Rosario, and Barnridge sound good to me. And GOOOO PANTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

probably a healthy combo of Fox not involving TEs much and Clausen not being able to throw over the middle.

Clausen completed 11 balls to the middle of the field w/ an average of 2.96 yards per pass (checkdowns).