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[Jackofalltrades]

Hate to say it but we will have a top 15 pick.

So will half the league, I'm saying top 5.

[CarolinaKat]

you're an idiot and a troll!!!!!!!!!!

:iagree:

[TheRealDeal]

You're doing it wrong

[pantherfan81]

Imo we will have a 6-10 year nothing more. Here's an article for optimists:

Back in 1999, in his rookie season as coach of the Philadelphia Eagles, Andy Reid attached himself to a rookie first-round quarterback, Donovan McNabb — the No. 2 overall draft pick that year. Before that marriage broke up in '10, they combined to help the Eagles win five division titles and an NFC championship.

Recently, there have been several such partnerships that appear to be on their way to rivaling that success. Here's a look at five that should provide good inspiration for both Mike Munchak and Jake Locker in Tennessee and Ron Rivera and Cam Newton in Carolina:

Rex Ryan and Mark Sanchez. It takes a high-profile duo to succeed in New York, and Ryan and Sanchez fit the Broadway marquee in roles made for them since 2009. Ryan is the outspoken, larger than life personality, while Sanchez has some of that Joe Namath swagger on and off the field. That's the perfect 1-2 punch of attitude that has turned them from two-time AFC wild-card entries to near conference championships. As Ryan continues to raise the defense and Sanchez keeps raising his game, they are in line to get over that hump soon.

John Harbaugh and Joe Flacco, Baltimore. A former assistant under Reid, Harbaugh made it an early point to follow the model with McNabb -- by starting Flacco from Week 1 when his tenure began in 2008. Although they have yet to win a division title together and have had some disappointments in the playoffs – twice to the nemesis Steelers, they've racked up a very impressive 36 total wins in just three seasons, including four in the playoffs. Eventually, the John and Joe show is too good to keep Baltimore from the Super Bowl in the near future.

Mike Smith and Matt Ryan, Atlanta. They were the other successful combination to be born in '08. It's been more good news this week for the both men, who helped their team finish with the NFC's best record last season. Smith expressed just how much he has missed interacting with his players during the lockout and while Ryan leads another round of player-only workouts, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports his favorite target, Pro Bowler Roddy White is back in the fold attending them. You can just how much of a players' coach Smith is when his eyes light up in postgame press conferences, and Ryan is an extension of his leadership on the field.

Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-06-14/rookie-coach-qb-combos-a-good-omen-for-titans-panthers#ixzz1PIbATtnv

[Ivan The Awesome]

So will half the league, I'm saying top 5.

Well what I'm saying is that I believe we'll be choosing between 8-15. Probably 9th. With a record of 5-11 through 7-9.

One thing for sure is that they will win more than two games.. I would hope so.

[jayflip]

Looking at that schedule Mav posted, I can see 5 wins out of that bunch. No game is a gimme, but there are 6 teams I see as beatable for us. Then there's the division games, most we'll lose, but not all. We can probably win 6 or 7 games next season. Even if we lose 'em all, I just want to see competitive gameplay, emotional willing of plays, and improvement/potential showing from our QB. That alone is leaps and bounds better than last year.

MM poo the bed, JC was not ready (and might never be ready), BstP was an embarrassment to even sign... Having cam in there at least gives me hope. Plus we have a real OC and an HC that's not scared of winning or being aggressive.

Realism is nice and all, but I prefer to be a blind homer fan, full of hope and optimism. Isn't that what being a fan is all about anyway?

[panthers55]

You guys better not let Panthers55 read any of your well thought out opinions stemming from facts.

It's all rainbows and butterflies or you're an idiot and a troll!!!!!!!!!!1!

Let me know when you actually have any well thought out ideas. They may seem great to you when you think about them in your head, but once they get posted, they must lose something in the translation.

[SCP]

Last year was about as bad as it gets watching an NFL football team. What made it worse was the lip service Hurney handed us every week after the losses piled up. Never calling 2010 a rebuilding year like we all knew it was. It is a season I will gladly erase from my memory.

What I am asking for this season is some damn offensive hope. I have never seen a team with an offense that went 3 and out so easily as our team last year. Not once last season did I feel our offense had a chance to score. I mean how many picks did we have against the Bengals last season that were immediately given back by the offense?

I don't think we win many games this year, but if we can compete and at least have a chance to win, that is a huge improvement over that crap Fox rolled out 16 times last season.

F*ck 2010 in the ass. Good riddance.

[panthers55]

Everything I said is based in more logic and fact than anything you said.

I said he's never been a head coach, you say he's been a DC and assembled a great staff. How do you know the staff is great? Coordinators don't always translate to head coaches.

I make a statement that our two offensive weapons MIGHT not be here and you say definitively that DWill is GOING to be here.

FACT: Steve Smith and Williams might not be here next year.

OPINION: Williams will be here next year.

You're right though, I'm the troll.

I don't want to go through the whole post and point out what's wrong with it but you get the point.

I look forward to your future posts founded in reason and logic. Good day sir :seeya:

That is your problem, you think it is fact when it your opinion. Even your facts when evaluated are often skewed in the wrong direction. Lets look at being a defensive coordinator in our division and how that worked out with a first round quarterback in the draft.

Smith comes into Atlanta after they go 4-12. He brings in a rookie quarterback as a number 1 pick and they go 11-5. Morriss comes into Tampa with one year of coordinator experience, drafts a rookie quarterback and with much less talent than we have on the team, goes 5-11 and then 10-6. So if the mark holds true we will be somewhere between 5 and 11 wins this year. Yeah we should really be worried he is a rookie and was only a defensive coordinator.

As for his staff being good, they are all teachers and proven coaches or players. McDermott is well versed in Jim Johnson's methods and his defenses finished 12th in the NFL the last 2 years. With Rivera's help that will be top 10 this year.

Chud was tight end and assistant head coach last year for the number 1 ranked offense in yards and second in scoring. He has experience in a number of systems in college and the pros.

Shula turned Garrard around resulting in a pro bowl in 2009 and a passer rating on almost 91 in 2010. Another guy with college and pro experience as well as being a player in college and the NFL.

Who else do you want to talk about?? Proehl, Kenn, Matsko, Graves?? How about Washington- the new defensive line coach. Last year he directed the rebuilt Chicago Bears line to 2nd in the NFl in rushing defense and 4th in scoring defense.

Go up and down the list of coaches and see what they done. A solid group by any evaluation by a knowledgeable guy.

Fact- Smith and Williams might not be there in 2011???? Seriously????

Great logic, LOL

Fact- the earth might blow up tomorrow. Opinion- it won't blow up.

Hint: anytime you state "fact" and use the word "might", you stated nothing worth writing about.

I know, I know, your post sure seemed pretty good when you composed it in your head. Keep it up though, you just continue to demonstrate my point.

[Razzy]

I could easily see us landing in the top 10, but probably not the top 3.

[bleys]

The coaching wasnt great, and it played a role in our poor performance last year, but it was not the only reason we sucked last year. I agree that the play calling was horrible, and davidson was probably the worst OC in the league last year, but you also have to admit that his playcalling led us to a record breaking rushing attack, and a 12-4 season in 2008.

I think the 2 most important reasons that we sucked last year were QB play and Richardson's refusal to spend money on the team. Clausen was absolutely horrible, and Matt Moore had serious injuries.

1) teams adapt to playcalling.

2) a john fox system works when teams do not have much tape that first year, but learn how to tear down your strength and force you to adapt. (does john fox adapt?)

3) they put a rookie QB on the field, can you remember once where they made it their goal to call simple/quick passing plays to get their QB in rhythm?

4) can you imagine running it 3 straight downs being a good game plan and then doing nothing when a defense stacks the box and blitzes the poo out of your OLine because they are going to test your QB? can you imagine not adapting to that game plan, spreading the defense with more WRs, calling screens, calling shorter routes...? f**king stupid isn't it? lol

just a few points....

I've already stated Clausen didn't show us much even when our run game kicked in REAL late into the season... but our coaches were dipshits... lol

[panthers55]

not saying he wasn't a part of it.. but our playcalling and coaching did nothing to help out a rookie QB.. he was after all a rookie.

I'd put Clausen on the list of:

1)Coaching

2)playcalling

3)Clausen

20)injuries

the Eagles game of 09 is the perfect example of what ridiculous philosophy we had. from whoever gave it.

they stacked one side of the ball, and yet did not call for quicker routes or better protection. and that resulted in 3 QBs seeing the field.

Look at the bright side. McDermott was coaching that Philly defense that killed us.

Hey, it is something...........

[bleys]

Look at the bright side. McDermott was coaching that Philly defense that killed us.

Hey, it is something...........

I thought that game was brilliant on his part... lol

I actually felt my brain gain a wrinkle that day.. he put a LBer in as DE and put a DE in at LBer.. stacked one side, and what did Fox do?

NOTHING.. LOL

[panthers55]

I thought that game was brilliant on his part... lol

I actually felt my brain gain a wrinkle that day.. he put a LBer in as DE and put a DE in at LBer.. stacked one side, and what did Fox do?

NOTHING.. LOL

One of my biggest complaints with Fox was that he ran vanilla schemes and didn't move personnel to account for opponents moves. On both sides of the ball we were too predictable and counted on physical talent to overcome better playcalling. Problem was that when we didn't have the physical talent we struggled mightily and were very inconsistent.