Court engaged in "settlement talks", court-ordered mediation for next week cancelled!

[DaCityKats]

quick question for some of you is taking money risk, the same as taking risk with your health? just curious, im neither for or against any side but the owners saying they are losing money is bs.

[DaCityKats]

not when the revenue and popularity of the game has increased every year.

[Stroupe-a-loop]

pie for the whiner

you obviously need it

oh yeah, its not about the "poor owners" it's about the players lawyering up and trying to fleece the owners for 50% off the top because they are THAT ******* DERANGED and have a severely inflated view of themselves.

The owners have a right to protect what they have through a lockout and the players have a right to protect what they have through desertification and legal action. It isn't "******* DERANGED" for one side to do it just because you happen to disagree with the politics.

[carolinarolls]

quick question for some of you is taking money risk, the same as taking risk with your health? just curious, im neither for or against any side but the owners saying they are losing money is bs.

find another job with nice comfy ergonomic desk chair

guaranteed has ruined the sport and yet the owners caved to it because of this injury garbage and now the players are wanting to take more WITHOUT accepting ANY of the risk. In other words. IF they get hurt, they get paid.

There is a health concern and there is a financial concern. Don't confuse the two by jumping back and forth. This is a money thing and not about player safety at all.

[4Corners]

I really hope so Fiz, I really do.

We said that 2 months ago. :(

[carolinarolls]

The owners have a right to protect what they have through a lockout and the players have a right to protect what they have through desertification and legal action. It isn't "******* DERANGED" for one side to do it just because you happen to disagree with the politics.

what is deranged is the players who think they have enough power to not only demand guaranteed contracts, that's not enough, now they want their cut of the money off the top. Of course the owners are not going to stand for that no matter how much they love the game and their teams.

To even suggest that is ******* DERANGED IMHO.

[Fiz]

This isn't labor versus management in a classic sense with one group taking advantage of the other and the other needing protection.

What is a classic sense and what do you mean by protection? Unless there are children pushing carts out of coal mines while someone whips them it's not "classic?" What the fug are you talking about?

The owners came flat out and said they wanted an extra 1 billion dollars off the top and for the players to play two more games and they weren't going to let them work until they got what they wanted.

in what world do you live in where owners demanding 11% off the top more than they already get and refusing to let players work until they get it not taking advantage of them?

how is demanding two extra games (something goodell still talks about) and refusing to let players work until they acquiesce not taking advantage of them?

No one is taking a paycut the players are simply not making money at the same 8% increase as in the last few years.

nope, somehow the owners are taking an extra billion off the top but the players will not be taking a paycut.

The NFL has invented magical money. Great job!

And if they negotiate in earnest they can get a settlement they can live with.

They did have a settlement everyone could live with. That's all they've wanted.

And it's not been the players that haven't been willing to talk up until this point. It's been pretty well documented that the owners are by far the more intransigent party, which was of course their strategy all along.

The whole litigation strategy was to gain leverage not to actual win.

the players are quite clearly an aggrieved party, and the American court system exists to address grievances. What did the NFL think was going to happen?

As for the players never having a leg to stand on, I was talking about the current litigation not court cases from 20 years ago.

Not only do you not understand how law works in this country, you're also ignorant of American Needle Inc. v. NFL which happened 20 years ago in 2010.

[Rhys]

pie for the whiner

you obviously need it

oh yeah, its not about the "poor owners" it's about the players lawyering up and trying to fleece the owners for 50% off the top because they are THAT ******* DERANGED and have a severely inflated view of themselves.

Mmmm, key lime.

I gave you pecan.

What exactly makes my posts 'whining' comparatively to the other 7 or so pages of this thread?

Oh wait, it's because I had an opinion that you didn't agree with. Oh that's right.

Quit being a bitch, and eat your pecan pie.

[Fiz]

Any fool who thinks that there can be should explain to me how there will be people out there willing to take the risks of ownership only to find out that who they hire will insulate themselves with attorneys and and remove control from their hands without taking on any ownership risks whatsoever.

There will be no business. People with the money to invest in them will stuff a mattress with cash and contribute charitably only in effort of a tax shelter instead of making the investment, hiring the out of work citizens, and creating ten or a hundred tax paying citizens who can support their families.

next caller

[Fiz]

seriously carolinarolls how did you type that with a straight face?

you're like a dumber, less literate, less entertaining john galt were that even possible.

[Stroupe-a-loop]

what is deranged is the players who think they have enough power to not only demand guaranteed contracts, that's not enough, now they want their cut of the money off the top. Of course the owners are not going to stand for that no matter how much they love the game and their teams.

To even suggest that is ******* DERANGED IMHO.

They do have enough power to demand any terms they want because they represent an irreplaceable work force for a product in extremely high demand. Look at other leagues playing football, they are all either shut down or struggling because what they lack is the quality of product that these players produce. The players were fine operating under a deal without guaranteed contracts, a cut of the money off the top, etc. The owners are the ones that opted out, and the owners want to take the money off the top.

[DaCityKats]

find another job with nice comfy ergonomic desk chair

guaranteed has ruined the sport and yet the owners caved to it because of this injury garbage and now the players are wanting to take more WITHOUT accepting ANY of the risk. In other words. IF they get hurt, they get paid.

There is a health concern and there is a financial concern. Don't confuse the two by jumping back and forth. This is a money thing and not about player safety at all.

so the players wanting to keep the money the same is ruining the game? i know that it is about money, but some people make it seems like the money risk are greater than the ones actually playing the game getting banged up.

the only one that seems to confused the two are the ones saying that the owners are taking risk. plus if you losing money, prove it.

[jtm]

Gotta love the Huddle. Where else can you get this kind of entertainment. I bet half of the loyal followers still have hourly jobs but are affluent enough in business economics to teach people about labor disputes - LOL.

[Stroupe-a-loop]

There is a health concern and there is a financial concern. Don't confuse the two by jumping back and forth. This is a money thing and not about player safety at all.

Also the health concern and financial concern are one in the same. Unless you live in some world where medical bills don't exist (like Shang-ri-la or Canada), and you are guaranteed employment despite a lifelong lack of employment in any other field.