Goodell still says fans want 18 games

[jtnc]

Worst Commissioner ever, and I stand by that. This guy just won't stop adding more fuel to the fire. I hope this isn't one of the issues they're arguing over in mediation cause it's pointless. Lockout will never get resolved with this fool bringing this up.

“We do think it is attractive to season-ticket holders. I hear that all of the time from our season-ticket holders,” Goodell said on a conference call with Titans season ticket holders. "We have not abandoned our position on that. We do think it is the right thing for the game. It improves the quality of what we do, and it improves the value for you as season-ticket holders. … We do think it is a benefit for everybody, but we want to do it the right way, and we want to do it responsibly. That includes the players’ perspective.”

http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/29610757

[rayzor]

if demaurice smith's personality was more like goodell's, we'd have a deal already.

goodell isn't the problem here. it's the litigation only mentality of smith.

[CarolinaVeins]

If this 18 game proposal is the reason why we cant get a CBA then I do not want

[Lords0fPain]

Worst Commissioner ever, and I stand by that. This guy just won't stop adding more fuel to the fire. I hope this isn't one of the issues they're arguing over in mediation cause it's pointless. Lockout will never get resolved with this fool bringing this up.

http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/29610757

I have no problem with 18 games, and he is right season tickets holders would rather pay for tickets to real games, not preseason games. Thats all they are doing, not "adding" 2 games, just trading 2 worthless preseason games out for 2 regular season games... that count. Don't think they are making it up, the owners do send out surveys to SEASON ticket holds...:eek:

Its more fans in the seats, buying hotel rooms to concessions. More televised games (advertisement, t.v. deals). Players and owners make more.

[Stroupe-a-loop]

I'd be super stoked if you could just get me 16 games right now commissioner. Thanks for the offer though, stay sweet.

[Lords0fPain]

If this 18 game proposal is the reason why we cant get a CBA then I do not want

No, the owners already said they would not do it, til the players agree...dbag wants to see the books of a private (which does not have to publicly show their books) company (the NFL)...thats why they can't get a deal done...:rolleyes: dbag wants 50/50 without taking expenses in to consideration...and would get a woody, if he can take it to the Supreme Court...

The Packers are publicly traded...they do have to open their books...and they do...

[Mr. Scot]

if demaurice smith's personality was more like goodell's, we'd have a deal already.

goodell isn't the problem here. it's the litigation only mentality of smith.

While I can at least in part agree with that, I still really wish he'd let this 18 game thing die and be buried.

I've never seen anything that made me believe this is something "the fans want". Just the opposite, honestly.

When Goodell claims he's pushing it for the sake of the fans, he makes himself look stupid.

[Stroupe-a-loop]

No, the owners already said they would not do it, til the players agree...dbag wants to see the books of a private (which does not have to publicly show their books) company (the NFL)...thats why they can't get a deal done...:rolleyes:

Also, the owners want them to take a worse deal for no reason. They are both stubborn and ruining this season.

[rayzor]

While I can at least in part agree with that, I still really wish he'd let this 18 game thing die and be buried.

I've never seen anything that made me believe this is something "the fans want". Just the opposite, honestly.

When Goodell claims he's pushing it for the sake of the fans, he makes himself look stupid.

if they were actually negotiating/talking about things, i seriously doubt that this would be something seen as a hard and fast requirement of a deal. it could be negotiated out easily.

gooddell is still acting like this could all be discussed in a meeting between the two sides. smith will never allow that meeting to take place unless forced.

[rayzor]

Also, the owners want them to take a worse deal for no reason. They are both stubborn and ruining this season.

it's the owners fault they got into the situation, but it's smith's fault they haven't worked something out.

[Lords0fPain]

While I can at least in part agree with that, I still really wish he'd let this 18 game thing die and be buried.

I've never seen anything that made me believe this is something "the fans want". Just the opposite, honestly.

When Goodell claims he's pushing it for the sake of the fans, he makes himself look stupid.

Are you sure? He is going by SEASON ticket holders, not single game ticket buyers or ppl that sit at home watching the boob tube for free...

Think its short sighted to think alot of SEASON tickets holders don't want it. I have heard that for quite a few years prior to this lockout mess, SEASON tickets hated have to pay for preseason games that mean nothing and few people go (season ticket holders or single ticket buyers)....:eek:

[Mr. Scot]

if they were actually negotiating/talking about things, i seriously doubt that this would be something seen as a hard and fast requirement of a deal. it could be negotiated out easily.

gooddell is still acting like this could all be discussed in a meeting between the two sides. smith will never allow that meeting to take place unless forced.

Agree that Smith is the prime mover behind the whole "take them to court" strategy. No great surprise that a lawyer thinks litigation is the answer (and I'll laugh my rump off if that ultimately backfires).

No argument there. I just wish the whole 'expanded season' idea would fade away forever (and take the 'international expansion' and 'need a team in L.A.' crap with it).

[Stroupe-a-loop]

it's the owners fault they got into the situation, but it's smith's fault they haven't worked something out.

There's really nothing to work out. The owners want a better deal, and the players don't want to give anything up. You can't just talk that out. So they are going to have to be told by a court who has the advantage.

[Mr. Scot]

Are you sure? He is going by SEASON ticket holders, not single game ticket buyers or ppl that sit at home watching the boob tube for free...

Think its short sighted to think alot of SEASON tickets holders don't want it. I have heard that for quite a few years prior to this lockout mess, SEASON tickets hated have to pay for preseason games that mean nothing and few people go (season ticket holders or single ticket buyers)....:eek:

From the article...

But here’s the thing, and Yahoo! Sports’ Doug Farrar points it out: Goodell has participated in 19 conference calls like this, and after reading transcripts of the talks, hardly any fan has mentioned wanting what Goodell says the fans want.

Also pretty much no denying the idea is almost universally hated by the players.