Richardson ...Lockout Article

[teeray]

Don't worry about it, I totally have the metaphor angle covered friend.

Yeah but you assume anyone has ever seen Battlefield Earth or wants to. ;)

[Stroupe-a-loop]

Yeah but you assume anyone has ever seen Battlefield Earth or wants to. ;)

. . . how . . . how dare you.

[Davidson Deac II]

Listen, we've all seen this play out before, and we know how it all ends. And of course I'm talking about the movie Battlefield Earth:

Terl (the nfl owners) is put into a bad circumstance by the Psychlo Home Office (the economy) and is forced to make Barry Pepper super intelligent in order for him to mine gold near Colorado (the owners signing the last CBA despite it being unfavorable). With his newfound self awareness and intelligence (favorable CBA), Barry Pepper leads an uprising that will make his gains permanent (the strike over the new CBA).

It has been foretold how this all ends. Jeff Saturday and Jay Feely fly Harrier jets into the NFL Films building while Dominique Foxworth transports a nuke to the NFL Headquarters in New York. Roger Goodell will be put in a cage and say something that vaguely leaves the door open for a sequel that never gets made because no one cares and Southpark will make fun of it.

And John Travolta makes a movie out of it that fails miserably. :)

[countryboi]

Listen, we've all seen this play out before, and we know how it all ends. And of course I'm talking about the movie Battlefield Earth:

Terl (the nfl owners) is put into a bad circumstance by the Psychlo Home Office (the economy) and is forced to make Barry Pepper super intelligent in order for him to mine gold near Colorado (the owners signing the last CBA despite it being unfavorable). With his newfound self awareness and intelligence (favorable CBA), Barry Pepper leads an uprising that will make his gains permanent (the strike over the new CBA).

It has been foretold how this all ends. Jeff Saturday and Jay Feely fly Harrier jets into the NFL Films building while Dominique Foxworth transports a nuke to the NFL Headquarters in New York. Roger Goodell will be put in a cage and say something that vaguely leaves the door open for a sequel that never gets made because no one cares and Southpark will make fun of it.

thats what battlefield earth was about? i watched it and i still dont know..:skep:

[blackcatgrowl]

Listen, we've all seen this play out before, and we know how it all ends. And of course I'm talking about the movie Battlefield Earth:

Terl (the nfl owners) is put into a bad circumstance by the Psychlo Home Office (the economy) and is forced to make Barry Pepper super intelligent in order for him to mine gold near Colorado (the owners signing the last CBA despite it being unfavorable). With his newfound self awareness and intelligence (favorable CBA), Barry Pepper leads an uprising that will make his gains permanent (the strike over the new CBA).

It has been foretold how this all ends. Jeff Saturday and Jay Feely fly Harrier jets into the NFL Films building while Dominique Foxworth transports a nuke to the NFL Headquarters in New York. Roger Goodell will be put in a cage and say something that vaguely leaves the door open for a sequel that never gets made because no one cares and Southpark will make fun of it.

You GTFO out of here with your scientology non-sense!!!

:D

[Stroupe-a-loop]

I'm just saying we all enjoyed the Mission Impossible movies, and as a thank you for that, we should give Tom Cruise our eternal souls. He's a totally dynamite fella.

[panthers55]

BTW the reason the NFLPA haven't countered yet is because they don't want to set conditions that they would possibly accept for fear that the courts would give them an even better deal. If they don't set parameters then they can try to milk as much as possible in the new CBA.

The last thing they want to do is make a counter and then realize they could have gotten a better deal through the courts. By sitting back and litigating they think they can milk as much as possible out of the future deal.

The NFLPA isn't negotiating because they intend to give nothing back. Any concession in their mind is a step backwards.

The issue I have heard is that the players take 50% but nothing comes out of their percentage but taxes. The owners make 50% but bear all the expenses. I don't know what it costs to run the league, pay all the expenses of the franchises, employees, stadiums, etc. but apparently the 1 billion exclusion doesn't pay it all. So the owner's 50% apparently is before expense and the player's have essentially no expenses. I wish the owners would just open up the books and show them where the beef is.

[Snake]

The NFLPA isn't negotiating because they intend to give nothing back. Any concession in their mind is a step backwards.

The issue I have heard is that the players take 50% but nothing comes out of their percentage but taxes. The owners make 50% but bear all the expenses. I don't know what it costs to run the league, pay all the expenses of the franchises, employees, stadiums, etc. but apparently the 1 billion exclusion doesn't pay it all. So the owner's 50% apparently is before expense and the player's have essentially no expenses. I wish the owners would just open up the books and show them where the beef is.

This pretty much sums it up. Why would the union want to negotiate? They have a deal right now that favors them and anything given up is a loss to them. The only leverage the NFL has is a work stoppage. This is basically how most union related matters go. The union keeps taking and taking till the business is in the red. Even a business that is a monopoly and has tons of revenue.

[teeray]

The NFLPA isn't negotiating because they intend to give nothing back. Any concession in their mind is a step backwards.

The issue I have heard is that the players take 50% but nothing comes out of their percentage but taxes. The owners make 50% but bear all the expenses. I don't know what it costs to run the league, pay all the expenses of the franchises, employees, stadiums, etc. but apparently the 1 billion exclusion doesn't pay it all. So the owner's 50% apparently is before expense and the player's have essentially no expenses. I wish the owners would just open up the books and show them where the beef is.

:iagree:

[Happy Panther]

Players have conceded that they will not get as good a deal as they had before. Players and owners will both make more $$ next year on aggregate under any deal

[Catweisers]

I have to side with owners because in the past several years most everything in our lives became about 20% less valuable and cost of living went up. Kinda think they say the writing on the wall and acted on it. Don't want any of this to happen but costs of doing business was almost out of reach of average fan.

[SevenSixes]

I'm constantly amazed by those who know nothing about what proposals are presented are seemingly so well versed in the specifics. Only the NFLPTA and the NFL know what those proposals are and any reports to the contrary are nothing but speculation and hype. Only a select few players know what is being discussed and they, like the owners, will not negotiate in the press.

I can absolutely guarantee that no matter how much less the players take of the profit is, there will be no relief for the fans in ticket prices, PSL prices or Sunday Ticket prices. To think otherwise is tomfoolery because they know what you paid for it before and you will do so again (the Saints just announced a sellout this year DESPITE the lockout).

For any fan who wants football to be played THIS year, you will hope for a decision AGAINST the owners. Because they have the keys to the lockout and have been preparing since the 2006 agreement to interrupt the 2011 season as leverage against the NFLPA. The secret agreement between the NFL and the TV partners giving the league $4B in loans if a season is preempted tells you that this labor issue was premeditated. The draconian cut in roster salary last year by a number of teams (including ours) tells you this was premeditated. The owners are willing to sacrifice this year of revenue partially because the damage they inflict will be long forgotten by the 2014 TV contract negotiations that mean more to the league than the stadium revenue.

In the end none of us are going to see any benefit from the CBA negotiations, except that we get to see our favorite players and team play. As soon as the ink is dry none of us will care one whit about this agreement and that's the way it should be.

hate away..

[Delhommey]

The NFLPA isn't negotiating because they intend to give nothing back. Any concession in their mind is a step backwards.

The issue I have heard is that the players take 50% but nothing comes out of their percentage but taxes. The owners make 50% but bear all the expenses. I don't know what it costs to run the league, pay all the expenses of the franchises, employees, stadiums, etc. but apparently the 1 billion exclusion doesn't pay it all. So the owner's 50% apparently is before expense and the player's have essentially no expenses. I wish the owners would just open up the books and show them where the beef is.

There's a reason they're not showing. Remember how the Pirates were in so much financial trouble but then Deadspin got a copy of their numbers?

Yeah. Notice the owners aren't saying that they're losing money. They just keep saying it's "unsustainable" which is French for "I'm really greedy."

[Delhommey]

Dammit!!! I'm only going to make $8MM per year instead of $10MM. And I'm going to have to work for 6 months out of 12??? I'm going to quit and take my college major of South-American Basket Weaving and go get a job making $40K because this is bullshat!

The day throws of people pay $60 for a $2 jersey just because it has your name on it and you do a service that maybe 100 other people in the country could even attempt, this could happen for you.