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What are #9 & #19 Collectively Worth?


OchoNueve

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1st of all, it needs to be noted that we can not trade our #9 pick before we have actually picked a player since we traded away last years pick and you can't trade 1st round picks in back to back years. However, that doesn't really mean much except it prevents us from doing pre-draft trades.

In the 2005 draft, Utah traded their #6 pick, #27 pick and a 2006 1st round pick that they already had from Detroit for the #3 pick. That 2006 pick wasn't expected to be high since Detroit had just lost in the NBA Finals & were expecting most of their team to come back in the next season (they wound up with the best record in 2006 thus that pick wound up being the last in round 1). Thus #6, #27 and a very late round next year pick moved from #6 to #3. No outside players were involved in the trade.

Thus I would say that the #9 & #19 would easily get us #5 and maybe #4. If we threw in our 2013 1st round pick we got from Portland and/or a decent vet on our roster like Jax & took back a contract from them, we could move up to #2.

However this draft is so stinking weak and there is not much drop off in talent from the 3rd best player to the 11th best player that unless we can get to #2 to get D. Williams, I wouldn't be doing these kind of trades.

What might be wise is to take BPA with #9 & wait and see who falls to #19. If there is nothing great on the board at that time, offer the #19 to Chicago in exchange for our 1st round pick we gave them for Tyrus. It was lottery protected so the Bulls were not expecting any high pick next year (& maybe no pick at all). Plus, once they sign Rose to an extension this summer/fall, they will be in cap hell and will only be able to fill their roster with draft picks & their mid level exception but they have a serious need for a wing player and there will be several 2nd tier wings available at #19 in this draft. Sounds like a good trade idea.

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I think we could probably move up to 6. If we added in a veteran like Diaw or Jack, we could probably get to to 5, 4, or 3, but I don't think it's worth it. The draft settles after the top two picks, and I don't think there's a reason to move up from 9 unless we can get Williams or Irving (which I don't think we can).

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1st of all, it needs to be noted that we can not trade our #9 pick before we have actually picked a player since we traded away last years pick and you can't trade 1st round picks in back to back years. However, that doesn't really mean much except it prevents us from doing pre-draft trades.

I didn't know that you can't trade first rounders back to back. How long does the #9 drafted player have to remain on our roster or can he immediately be traded once he is picked.

Basically, if we were going to move up to #2... could we be on the phone with Minnesota asking them who they want us to take at #9 in order to immediately trade them?

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Basically, if we were going to move up to #2... could we be on the phone with Minnesota asking them who they want us to take at #9 in order to immediately trade them?

That's what I'm thinking we can do. Didn't we do something similar with Golden State some years ago?

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The Cavs should try to trade up for the #2 pick as well. Offer up next year's first round pick and this years 4th (can't remember if that's the pick they have or not). Maybe throw in Jamison.

Draft Kyrie Irving and Derrick Williams. Profit.

Never really thought of that. Good idea if you ask me.

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Draftniks have touted Kyrie Irving and Derrick Williams as the only 2 potential "elite talents" but I think that Canter and Brandon Knight both will be good NBA players and would be worth trading up for if we could get as high as 3 or 4.

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