Stay has been granted, lockout is official...again.

[Fiz]

Not what I said but way to put words in my mouth.

The players haven't indicated either way if they're prepared for this lockout.

You seem to be ignoring that there are owners like Wilson, Davis, and the Glazers that can't afford a lockout either. Did they know the risks? Did they have a spot at the table? Were they speaking out against it?

Maybe Goodell should be pilloried for not taking their interests into considerations! it's not like we're talking about rocket scientists here.

[panthers55]

Goddell is actually one of the few making sense here. The solution is to negotiate a settlement not litigate one. The problem with litigation is that the outcome is not always guaranteed and there are always winners and losers. Negotiation if done correctly can end up in a win/win situation. The problem with some lawyers is they want to win at all cost and the point is to win, not find a mutually beneficial solution. Lets see if Smith fits into that category. If he takes the opportunity to negotiate a settlement then he is putting his representatives in front of his own wishes which is to fight it out in court. If he continues to hold out and refuse to negotiate, then he is not finding a solution but acting on his own agenda.

To say that the lockout is a miscarriage of justice ignores the whole premise of what they ruled on. They didn't rule on whether the lockout was legal or not simply whether the lockout was causing permanent and irreparable damage to the players if it continued until the appeal was heard. Two out of three felt there was no damage so they kept the lockout in place. They did however heavily suggest that the owners are likely to win the apeal.

Hopefully now that neither side has absolute leverage, they will actually begin to negotiate in earnest instead of sham negotiations like before particularly by the players. Particularly since it appears the owners have the upper hand.

[CPF4LIFE]

Its a PROCESS!!!

[TheGreatestOfAllTimeCam]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/16/report-breakthrough-in-talks/

Progress made

[Cat'sGrowl]

mogogo1 says: May 16, 2011 7:14 PM

The owners and players, uniting in their shared dislike of Cris Collinsworth, who predicted no football until at least November, decide to get a deal done today just to make Cris look like a fool.

Hey, whatever gets a deal done…

:lol:

[panthers55]

In sifting through the articles I found these tidbits.

“[W]e have serious doubts that the district court had jurisdiction to enjoin the League’s lockout, and accordingly conclude that the League has made a strong showing that it is likely to succeed on the merits.”

To secure a lifting of the lockout while the lawsuit proceeds, the players had to show that they’ll suffer “irreparable harm,” that they are likely to succeed on the merits of the case, and that a balance of the overall fairness of the case favors of the players. To obtain a stay of the order lifting the lockout, the NFL was required to make a “strong showing” that it is likely to succeed on the merits, that it will suffer irreparable harm without a stay, and that fairness and the public interest favor the league’s position.

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The challenge for U.S. Magistrate Judge Arthur Boylan will be to persuade the league to continue to operate in good faith at mediation, despite the fresh knowledge that the NFL likely will win the appeal. And to the extent that the NFL was demonstrating good faith on Monday when it opted to formulate a new offer, the real test will be whether that new offer represents an effort to craft a meaningful long-term partnership, or whether the league’s new offer will simply reflect the new leverage in which the NFL suddenly is frolicking.

[TheGreatestOfAllTimeCam]

Sifting through all the legal jargon; is there gonna be a damn full NFL season or not?

[panthers55]

Sifting through all the legal jargon; is there gonna be a damn full NFL season or not?

I think so. The players didn't want to give an inch believing they would win in the courts. This puts a real kink in the players case and will likely make them start negotiating in real faith. I suspect the lockout will end in the next 3 to 4 weeks if not sooner.

[Ivan The Awesome]

I hope you're right.

[Verge]

I'm just ready for this poo to be over, Arena football just isn't doing it for me.

=/

[DaveThePanther2008]

DeMaurice had them thinking they were going to win his personal war in court.

I have always felt that DeMaurice could give a rats A$$ about football or the players. This was more about getting his name in the history books than doing what was good for football.

I hope they fire his A$$ and soon.

[carolinarolls]

the players thought they had leverage and followed a moron into court. They won a few insignificant battles in court and this unfortunately bolstered the confidence in DSmiff.

Now they are standing around wondering what will happen next and questioning their faith in the leader guy called DeMaurice.

It's hilarious. Players, excuse me, employees do not have leverage. Just like 7Up..."never had it, never will"

[Highlandfire]

AdamSchefter

OUTSTANDING! This means we get a deal sooner than later and the players don't destroy the league. The appeals court will rule for the owners and that ends that.

Now the bastard players and that fug Dbag Smith can get bent. Take the new deal offered and get back to work.

[stirs]

"hey the owners want you to work more for less money."

a concept inconceivable to your typical *****

From the liberal playbook:

When losing an argument or not making significant headway even after several insults, play the race card