Cam Newton trains with IMG Madden Football QB gurus

[jayflip]

Socal is weird. I live in northern California. Better climate better people. Cheaper homes.

Nope. You're hella wrong. See what I did there?

[jayflip]

I love cali for the record. Hot ass girls and nice weather.

I would never live there though. Too expensive and I don't like earthquakes.

Shoot, we haven't had a good quake hit in over a decade. We're probably due. We sure as poo don't have to worry about hurricanes or humidity.

I live 5 minutes from the beach, an hour from Mexico, 2 hours from mountain snowboarding, an hour from dessert buffoonery. I'd say the cost of living is worth it. But if I did live anywhere else, it'd be in Charlotte.

[calipanther]

Shoot, we haven't had a good quake hit in over a decade. We're probably due. We sure as poo don't have to worry about hurricanes or humidity.

I live 5 minutes from the beach, an hour from Mexico, 2 hours from mountain snowboarding, an hour from dessert buffoonery. I'd say the cost of living is worth it. But if I did live anywhere else, it'd be in Charlotte.

San Diego is ok. Being close to Mexico doesnt really count as a bonus for me. But California in general is definitely worth the cost of living. Especially since every employer pays more here anyway. But id love to be back home too. For the record hella is better than wicked.

[TheRealDeal]

I dunno about the last part.

"That's my boy Will, he's wicked smart"

"That's my boy Will, he's hella smart"

Wicked wins.

[jayflip]

San Diego is ok. Being close to Mexico doesnt really count as a bonus for me. But California in general is definitely worth the cost of living. Especially since every employer pays more here anyway. But id love to be back home too. For the record hella is better than wicked.

Who says wicked anyway? Now don't come bashing gnarly, or I'll have to bust some skulls.

[TheRealDeal]

Who says wicked anyway? Now don't come bashing gnarly, or I'll have to bust some skulls.

The only people I've heard say wicked are people from Boston.

[mav1234]

Wicked is a New England thing, but primarily Massachusetts. You'll occasionally get some people from Maine and CT saying it too.

[rayzor]

kind of sad/funny when a mod plays a key role in getting a thread totally hijacked.

meh...discussion was just going around in circles anyway, esp. when you got people in here who do nothing but troll.

[SevenSixes]

The best part of this article has been overlooked by the poster..

"The encouraging news for Panthers fans anxious to see Newton is that the new face of their franchise is already immersed in learning the team’s playbook with the help of former NFL QB and current IMG mentor Ken Dorsey, who played for Panthers offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski at the University of Miami from 2000-2003."

It's not Chris Weinke that's the important "Carolina Connection", it's Ken who knows what Chud wants and how Chud coaches. Ken was most likely recommended by Chud as the player for Cam to learn under. I'd hardly find it surprising that Chud just might call his former QB on a regular basis (say, once a day) to check up on his new QB's progress.

Mind you that Chud would not talk DIRECTLY to :cam:, but if he were on the speakerphone with Ken while :cam: was in the room.. who could say?

I couldn't imagine that the IMG training center just might have a few cameras that would record :cam: in action and just possibly would make that video available over a secure connection giving Chud the ability to watch his new QB in action, so he could relay some info to Ken and Chris about what he thinks about :cam: training to that point..

Of course with a modern video conferencing system, all that could happen in real time as well..

A man can dream a little dream can't he?

[rayzor]

^^^^ very well could be happening. i wouldn't be surprised if it were.

[mav1234]

and I'm sure that would end up being tampering.

of course it's ongoing anyway so who gives a fug.

oh yeah, the labor dispute.

ffs. this thread just makes me angrier about the labor dispute. Cam shouldn't have to be off training with them. He should be training with our guys. Glad he IS training, but still.

[jks85]

Those who can't, teach.

let me preface the rest of this post by saying i'm not claiming weinke is necessarily a good qb coach.

i know you didn't make it up, so i don't mean to call you out here, but i've always considered this a rather vacuous statement. peyton manning seems cerebral enough that once he hangs it up he could prob be a hell of a qb trainer, and while it would be literally true to say "he only coaches b/c he cannot play anymore," it would miss the implication of this statement--only scrubs teach-- which would clearly be false in this case (and various others).

all other things equal, possessing the ability to perform a task is an advantage. however, all other things are rarely equal and players have various strengths and limitations and succeed/fail for a variety of reasons. thus in reality the inability to perform a task does not preclude one player from assisting another in performing said task, nor does the ability to perform said task necessarily make it more likely that you can convey the knowledge.

of course a level of familiarity with the task in question or level of proficiency commensurate with the difficulty of the task is ideal-- we would rather see newton train with weinke than a mediocre division 3 qb--that said the reasons "why" a player was good (or bad) bear a great deal of significance with regards to their ability to transfer their knowledge. the high iq player who plateaued due to physical limitations will often be a superior instructor to a better player who excelled due to physical traits in spite of possessing less knowledge.

again, my point isn't that chris weinke or ken dorsey are ideal candidates under whom newton can study. i just don't believe they should be written off as having no value due to having sucked, especially given the current alternatives.