Kurt Warner is a hater...

[Zod]

Kurt lobbied against stem cell research because it "wouldn't yield results for ten years."

He is a simple minded nincompoop. Not interested in a thing he does off the field.

[hank pimple butt]

I don't care what anyone says! This the most excitement this team and (myself) has had in years!

[CatMan72]

I hate to interrupt the collective freakout here, but if I read right, this...

...is what everyone is going off about? :confused:

I'm not getting why this statement is a big deal. It actually sounds like something that could be just "matter of fact" since Newton did mention taking a vacation.

Why so sensitive? Does this fanbase have a collective little man complex or something?

No, it's the incredibly harsh criticism every time Cam's name came up from the moment we picked him until the end of the NFLN broadcast last night, with jabs like the one I noted sprinkled in. You had to be there, it wasn't said in a "matter of fact" way.

...and you've met me, I don't have a "little man" complex, LOL

[Jackofalltrades]

I think your view of "incredibly harsh" is a bit skewed.

I was a little taken back by the comment too and it's another reason why many don't think he's ready to QB at this level. His answer, any rookies answer, should be get to work. Any rookie, especially him, should never say vacation. Instant red flag, IMO.

[CatMan72]

I think your view of "incredibly harsh" is a bit skewed.

I was a little taken back by the comment too and it's another reason why many don't think he's ready to QB at this level. His answer, any rookies answer, should be get to work. Any rookie, especially him, should never say vacation. Instant red flag, IMO.

Maybe, but apparently I'm not the only one who feels that way.

I wasn't taken back by that comment, the kid just got picked # 1 overall and his head was probably swimming at that moment... you got him out there with his mom and you stuff a microphone in his face and ask him what he's going to do now that the process is over, he looks his mom in the eyes and says he's going to take his family on a vacation... to reward them for all the support,etc through the whole process, that's how I read it.

Ever since that moment, he's said he wants to get to work right away, wants to get in his playbook, but nobody's interested in hearing that.

[CatMan72]

Anyhow, Cam says he uses comments like Kurt's to motivate him - so I guess I should be thanking Kurt.

[Jackofalltrades]

Ever since that moment, he's said he wants to get to work right away, wants to get in his playbook, but nobody's interested in hearing that.

I'm very interested in hearing that and as a former Cam hater I've been impressed by what he's had to say and how he's carried himself thus far.

It just worries me a bit that, given all the learning he has to do, all the challenges we'll face and critics he'll have to silence his first thought was vacation.

As far as having a microphone shoved in his face after a critical moment- he better get used to it, it's going to happen a lot more.

[YourManInAmsterdam]

Kurt Warner is a tool. And also, a lousy artist.

[rayzor]

people way too caught up on what he said rather than what he actually did and is doing. that comes from having a closed mind about him and other things. facts are irrelevant. people don't like to have their paradigms or perceptions altered. might have to admit they were wrong or were ignorant about something (even though you can't grow/learn without being wrong once in a while or ignorant at one point). the horror.

[JawnyBlaze]

Call me crazy, but I think I'd prefer to judge a man's character by actions that actually mattered as opposed to deeming him a lousy person because he said something I didn't like about my favorite team's quarterback.

But hey, that's just me... :sosp:

I never said anything about his comment about my team's quarterback. What I said was referring to my already existing dislike of him, noted by the "I've never really liked his personality". I don't care about his dislike of Cam Newton, his opinion on a player's chances to succeed or fail has nothing to do with character unless it's motivated by some prejudice, which I don't think it is... I dislike him because of everything I've ever heard him say. Maybe he really is a good guy, maybe the read I get off him is wrong. But every time I heard him open his mouth in an interview as a player he came off as smug and self important. Everything that guy from PFW said about Cam is doubly true for Warner, in my opinion. He's always seemed to say and do things just for the attention it brings him. The true test would be what kind of person he was before the fame. If he was always like he is now (not talking about charity and stuff, obviously he couldn't afford that sort of stuff before) then it's just an annoying personality but not a deficient one.

[Millions]

I am over the negative sh1t the media has to say about Young Cam. Hell It's been routine since last year an wont end anytime soon. Hopefully we have football and he will get to prove all of the haters wrong sooner rather than later.

[MWCarolina]

i agree with the poster who said Warner has earned the right to say what he feels. he has came to the league from a complete nobody and won a Super Bowl and was a household name. it's not like Warner was given things on a silver platter, he worked hard and is a good man off the field too.

[mav1234]

Does anyone have a link to the "vacation" comment? At the time I heard it live it sounded like he wanted to go on a vacation with his mother but I wasn't sure if he was saying his mother deserved a vacation or what.

[Mr. Scot]

No, it's the incredibly harsh criticism every time Cam's name came up from the moment we picked him until the end of the NFLN broadcast last night, with jabs like the one I noted sprinkled in. You had to be there, it wasn't said in a "matter of fact" way.

...and you've met me, I don't have a "little man" complex, LOL

I have, but it's one reason why I don't get the sensitivity here.

If there was incredibly harsh criticism coming from Warner, by all means post that. Sorry, but what you've posted here doesn't really register for me on the 'incredibly harsh' meter.

If Warner - or anyone else - thinks that he needs to concentrate on improving his passing skills, that's a perfectly reasonable evaluation, no different than if someone said Patrick Peterson needs work on his zone coverage.

Making note of past character questions? Sorry, but he's got a record so that's valid too, just as valid as someone referencing Jon Beason's strip club incident or Steve Smith punching out teammates. It's just the kind of thing you have to understand you're gonna hear.

It doesn't make the guy who raises those issues a bad person, especially not when it's their job to talk about those things.

People's really should resist this desire to tie someone's character to their football opinions.