Cam Newton's dad will finally get PAID!

[CatMan72]

What is "allot?"

al·lot   

[uh-lot] Show IPA

–verb (used with object), -lot·ted, -lot·ting.

1.to divide or distribute by share or portion; distribute or parcel out; apportion: to allot the available farmland among the settlers.

2.to appropriate for a special purpose: to allot money for a park.

3.to assign as a portion; set apart; dedicate.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/allot

...and that's exactly the context I meant it in ;)

[SorthNarolina]

The NCAA rules regarding maintaining amateur status clearly say that no student athlete may take a gift in any form from any company, agent or individual on the basis of their status as a student athlete. Plainly, Cam Newton is not allowed to accept free movie tickets because he is Cam Newton. In that way, the NCAA rules restrict players from making money off of who they are and thereby, the argument proceeds, maintain their amateur status.

You'd be a fool, though, to think that the NCAA and those major schools aren't making money off of Cam Newton, though he can't make money off of himself. If you've ever played any NCAA football game, you'll notice that the players don't have names, they're just numbers. That is all because of the NCAA rules.

It should also be noted that not every student-athlete gets their education paid for in full.

It is a great thing that some of these athletes get their education for free, though many of them don't utilize that. A lot of major college recruits see college as a way to get into the pros and don't appreciate college for it's educational value.

That's partly the NCAA's fault too. The requirements that student-athletes have to meet to remain academically eligible are ridiculous. You don't even have to have a 2.0 GPA until you're a JUNIOR. You can skate by with a 1.8 your freshman year and a 1.9 your sophomore year.

It is unfair of the NCAA to tell a student-athlete that they can't accept some $10 movie tickets, else risk being ruled ineligible, but the NCAA stands to make millions on its most celebrated athletes. That being said, so long as the NCAA policies are in place, it's my belief that student-athletes should have to conform to them, regardless of their perceived fairness. The right way to go about making a change in the NCAA is not to just disregard the policy. The NCAA is so much more powerful than even it's strongest schools and student-athletes.

Who says student athletes can't have jobs?

They can have jobs as long as they can go without sleeping.

[neverlosethefeeling]

They can have jobs as long as they can go without sleeping.

Ok this is a bit of a misconception.

The NCAA limits hours of time that a student-athlete may participate in team-related or coach-led activites. The number is 20 hours per week, with 4 hours maximum a day. And that's only during the championship season. During the off-season, teams are allowed to have only 8 hours of any type of practice, weight-lifting, conditioning, etc. There are plenty of student-athletes who maintain part-time jobs throughout their careers. I was one of them.

The NCAA has these restrictions in place; whether or not teams abide by them is a different story and not related to the original claim that student-athletes aren't able or aren't permitted to have jobs.

[lightsout]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/allot

...and that's exactly the context I meant it in ;)

I thought "Allot" was a relative of Allah. Learn something every day.

[Kurb]

Trolling thread is trolling.

[chef17]

yes and no.

Not fair to say since we are paying your tuition while you play football.......you can't get a job so that you will be able to live a normal lifestyle. Not every student has parents makin in rain.....some need to make their own money. NCAA creates a toxic enviroment imo.

I thought they got a stipid (thinks that's how you spell it) each month for them to live off. And if the student goes to a school that cost $20,000 for example, IMO the school is basically paying the student the money and the student pays it right back. So IMO they already are getting paid.

[chef17]

The NCAA rules regarding maintaining amateur status clearly say that no student athlete may take a gift in any form from any company, agent or individual on the basis of their status as a student athlete. Plainly, Cam Newton is not allowed to accept free movie tickets because he is Cam Newton. In that way, the NCAA rules restrict players from making money off of who they are and thereby, the argument proceeds, maintain their amateur status.

You'd be a fool, though, to think that the NCAA and those major schools aren't making money off of Cam Newton, though he can't make money off of himself. If you've ever played any NCAA football game, you'll notice that the players don't have names, they're just numbers. That is all because of the NCAA rules.

It should also be noted that not every student-athlete gets their education paid for in full.

It is a great thing that some of these athletes get their education for free, though many of them don't utilize that. A lot of major college recruits see college as a way to get into the pros and don't appreciate college for it's educational value.

That's partly the NCAA's fault too. The requirements that student-athletes have to meet to remain academically eligible are ridiculous. You don't even have to have a 2.0 GPA until you're a JUNIOR. You can skate by with a 1.8 your freshman year and a 1.9 your sophomore year.

It is unfair of the NCAA to tell a student-athlete that they can't accept some $10 movie tickets, else risk being ruled ineligible, but the NCAA stands to make millions on its most celebrated athletes. That being said, so long as the NCAA policies are in place, it's my belief that student-athletes should have to conform to them, regardless of their perceived fairness. The right way to go about making a change in the NCAA is not to just disregard the policy. The NCAA is so much more powerful than even it's strongest schools and student-athletes.

Who says student athletes can't have jobs?

I agree the NCAA has some stupid rules. I just don't buy the "the players have the right to get paid" argument. IMO getting a free education is pretty much getting paid. In georgia we have the HOPE where if you maintain a certain GPA the gov. pays for your tuition. To me, that is the same as the gov. paying me the money, and I pay it to the school.

[neverlosethefeeling]

I agree the NCAA has some stupid rules. I just don't buy the "the players have the right to get paid" argument. IMO getting a free education is pretty much getting paid. In georgia we have the HOPE where if you maintain a certain GPA the gov. pays for your tuition. To me, that is the same as the gov. paying me the money, and I pay it to the school.

Understood, I just have a problem with schools and the NCAA saying "you can't make money for yourself off of yourself, but we can make money for us off of you." And I will admit that there's definitely some legitimacy to the argument that the money schools make off of athletics gets funneled back into the system which is, in a way, paying the players (i.e., my best friend plays football for a big time progam and they have their own team plane).

I think that in some instances, though, the NCAA bans activities that are generally harmless.