Build a Cam Newton friendly offense

[Fiz]

Remember, we had to change our entire defensive scheme against ATL to stop Michael Vick.

that's a wild exaggeration.

[Seamonk]

that's a wild exaggeration.

for atl games it isn't. it took us how many years to beat atl?

[DaCityKats]

and i still remember vick whooping our ass and extending plays. yeah he will have to learn the windows of different zones but so would any other qb drafted.i really dont get why you would play gabbert any different then newton.

[Fiz]

for atl games it isn't. it took us how many years to beat atl?

they did not in fact change their "entire scheme"

they got more athletic corners and in 2005-06 put a spy on him.

[Seamonk]

they did not in fact change their "entire scheme"

they got more athletic corners and in 2005-06 put a spy on him.

that's a pretty big change for 1 player. and yes it was an exaggeration but what isn't a huge exaggeration on the huddle these days. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[eViL jEsTeR]

That is how you fail. No great QB in the NFL has ever had the system made around him, they all fit into an existing system. If Cam can't run Chuds system as it is written, then he isn't the pick

Agreed. I just don't see how they can think he could run it. He threw 230 passes last year and ran over 900 times. How can this be the perfect guy for their system? It makes no sense at all.

[DaCityKats]

other than a spy you will not be playing newton differently than gabbert.

[Seamonk]

other than a spy you will not be playing newton differently than gabbert.

If you're an NFL defensive coordinator, do you play Peyton Manning differently than Tom Brady? You limit their strengths and expose their weaknesses. Cam and Gabbert have different strengths and weaknesses.

[Fiz]

that's a pretty big change for 1 player.

Not really. They simply dropped a LB or DT and instead of adding a DB over the top they dropped Davis into the middle without any pass or run obligations.

and yes it was an exaggeration but what isn't a huge exaggeration on the huddle these days. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

That you know nothing about the Panthers.

[d-run]

Agreed. I just don't see how they can think he could run it. He threw 230 passes last year and ran over 900 times. How can this be the perfect guy for their system? It makes no sense at all.

uh, I think your stats are a little off

[Seamonk]

Not really. They simply dropped a LB or DT and instead of adding a DB over the top they dropped Davis into the middle without any pass or run obligations.

That you know nothing about the Panthers.

http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/carolina-panthers/

Tell me what isn't a huge exaggeration from that.

[Pox 08]

lol ran it 900 times....with a 5.6 ypc average........ damn..... that's around 5k yards rushing in one year!

I know the number was a deliberate overstep, but still............5k yards in a single season, oh how heads will roll.

[thefuzz]

attacking down field is what he does best... and fuzz why cant he run any style of offense? just asking.

There are a few reasons, some of them well documented, others my own opinions, and others that I will say about almost every QB in this class.

Goes for Cam and all rookies, but especially for short term starters from gimick offenses.

1. He will be seeing coverages that he has never seen before.

2. He will be coming from under center about 75% of the time.

3. This O uses the play action a lot, meaning he will be turning his back to the D.

4. He will be throwing to a spot, not a player.

5. The Turner/Zampese O uses many players with wild route trees, has he had to go through 3, 4 or 5 progressions before? I doubt it.

Again, these are both concerns of mine about Cam, and the others, but especially Cam as that is who we will likely draft. Not to mention he has the least amount of time under center as anyone in the draft.

IMO Ryan Mallett has the best chance to succede in this O out of all the QB's in this draft. My oh my how I wish we had that 33rd pick, and could select Dareus with the 1st and get Mallett with the 2nd.

[panthers55]

There are a few reasons, some of them well documented, others my own opinions, and others that I will say about almost every QB in this class.

Goes for Cam and all rookies, but especially for short term starters from gimick offenses.

1. He will be seeing coverages that he has never seen before.

2. He will be coming from under center about 75% of the time.

3. This O uses the play action a lot, meaning he will be turning his back to the D.

4. He will be throwing to a spot, not a player.

5. The Turner/Zampese O uses many players with wild route trees, has he had to go through 3, 4 or 5 progressions before? I doubt it.

Again, these are both concerns of mine about Cam, and the others, but especially Cam as that is who we will likely draft. Not to mention he has the least amount of time under center as anyone in the draft.

IMO Ryan Mallett has the best chance to succede in this O out of all the QB's in this draft. My oh my how I wish we had that 33rd pick, and could select Dareus with the 1st and get Mallett with the 2nd.

No doubt he will have a big transition but a team can simplify their packages for a rookie quarterback just like they did for Moore in 2007 and Clausen in 2010. In fact teams commonly are still parts of their offense when the season starts. He won't be going through 4 or 5 progressions just like any rookie. If he gets to 3 or 4 he will be lucky and our line will be working their butts off. Most quarterbacks on most plays don't go through more than 2 or 3 progressions.

Of those 75% coming from center, half of that will be to handoff to the back. We will use playaction but not perhaps that much while he gets it down. The are plenty of teams that use the shotgun on passing downs and even run draws or other running plays from it.

As for Mallett, he would be my least preferred quarterback out of the top 7 ranked ones at this point. He has all the character issues Newton does and is a slow gangly quarterback who has no mobility.