The end of the NFL as we know it!

[The Saltman]

Easier said than done

[KSpan]

Why should this upset me? Am I upset when Goldman Sachs or JP Morgan have the largest returns?

Should we break up Wal-Mart, one of the most successful business in American history? Or maybe Home Depot?

this is simply an expression of the free market and true conservatives, not RINOs, should embrace it.

And as an expression of the free market, if the players don't like the way the NFL does business they should be free to start their own league, not bitch and impose their will on the established league. The NFL is a brand, and they do not have a monopoly on football - the various other leagues over the years have shown that. If they wanted to compete, then they should have made their leagues better.

Frankly, I think the argument that "the lockout is hurting the players' careers" is total and utter crap. Hurting their NFL careers? Yes. Hurting their careers as football players? Nope. They're free to begin playing in their own league at any time.

[Fiz]

Easier said than done

not at all.

if you can't afford a BMW, you don't bitch about it, you simply purchase a less expensive car.

as far as the players, I think it's admirable that they're breaking down a system that, while it benefited them, betrayed the principles this country was founded on.

I fully anticipate numerous leagues to emerge and compete for our viewership. The more successful leagues will attract the better players.

anyone who doesn't look forward to this isn't a true free market enthusiast.

[House]

Fiz is funny.

[The Saltman]

Obviously the Panthers will simply have to make themselves more attractive to potential new players and free agents.

this is what I meant to quote with my last post btw..sorry a little preoccupied at the moment.

[Fiz]

this is what I meant to quote with my last post btw..sorry a little preoccupied at the moment.

Not at all.

Jerry will simply have to hire the best in the business, or perhaps pursue innovative new marketing/investment solutions in order to attract the capital necessary to compete in the exciting new world of truly free market football.

If he cannot do it, fans will respond by not going to the game, he'll have to sell the team, and a new owners will hopefully take over and lead the team in the right direction.

It's very exciting times and I'm eager to see how the ownership group responds to this new challe- wait, no, opportunity.

[RealisticFan]

Fiz is funny.

Yeah, I know I find ignorance especially entertaining. I hope he continues, or she what ever it is.

[Fiz]

Yeah, I know I find ignorance especially entertaining. I hope he continues, or she what ever it is.

there's nothing ignorant about the rationality of the free market.

[ElkinPanthersFan]

How is it bad if people are willing to pay more to go to a game than you are?

Maybe you should work harder, or re prioritize so you can afford psls. It's not the owners fault demand outstrips your ability to pay for their product.

There are plenty of smaller football leagues you can enjoy.

Whether or not I am capable of paying to go to these games is irrelevant to the topic. You are senile to believe that the popularity of the NFL will not go down. I'd equate what we would witness to F1 and Indy Car, two prime examples of a sport where revenue directly correlates to the results on the tracks weekly. Both of which barely are alive from their glory days. Both direct results of uncapped, unlimited funding. If this is the path you wish to go down, you will be cheering (or not) for the LA Panthers.

The NBA another great example. A league with a salary cap, but you can exceed it so long as the teams is willing to paying a luxury tax over the cap. Look at who wins year in and year out. The teams with the most funding. The declining popularity of the NBA speaks for itself.

Sure, you have a heart warming story like the Giants or Marlins occasionally in MLB, but this is the exact model you have in that sport. Look at the teams that traditionally dominate in and out every year. Yankees, Red Sox, Philllies, Angels, and Texas. I will lose interest in the NFL if this is the path it takes. I don't particularly care for the 3 other major American sports nor NASCAR as its went the same route.

To each his own..

[Lumps]

My fear is players will stack certain teams and that is how they will win, not by 'free market' but because all they have to do is stack a team and win championships, winning all the money and glory (see Heat, Lakers, Celtics, Yankees, Red Sox). Championships will be meaningless but you're saying that's ok and we'll all feel better about it because we all know its a 'free market'? Also, sorry to bust your patriotic homer balls but America was not built upon a 'free market' as much as you want to believe and it wasn't founded on it either, it was founded on monopolies, bribes, corruption and murder. It as also built on slavery too.

Free market is simply an idea that works well for some things and doesn't in others. It has it's place and it also contains it's fair share of negatives, embraced in this type of situation.

[House]

Yeah, I know I find ignorance especially entertaining. I hope he continues, or she what ever it is.

Fiz is actually pretty smart, which is sad because he is also a fuging dick.

Its easier to poke a dumb dick with a stick and make it say stupid poo than it is to piss off a smart one.

[Dpantherman]

oops

[Ruff]

as an advocate of the free market, I'm glad that finally the special considerations that have impeded the natural flow of economics are finally being done away with.

Now the best players from college will be adequately rewarded for their performances. This will provide incentives for them to play better in college and improve the junior game. Law firms don't get to have drafts, why should the NFL?

I don't think that a law firm is a very good comparison to what's going on right here. Just as Judge Nelson ruled, there is way more going on here than just a union and an organization arguing privately over compensation. This is a matter than has ramifications all the way down to the person buying a hot dog at a game.

Also, one could argue that a player in the current system is choosing where he works. He chose to work for the NFL. He just happens to be working in a different branch of the overall organization. (Much like bank tellers moving from branch to branch. They chose to work at BB&T, just not the exact location.)

[KBRed]

this is what I meant to quote with my last post btw..sorry a little preoccupied at the moment.

Obviously the Panthers will simply have to make themselves more attractive to potential new players and free agents.

So you're saying Cam is the pick...