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NFL owners don't get it...

Jackofalltrades

By Jackofalltrades,
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jpniner Newbie

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Unfortunately the NFL has argued it isn't but the law has found it is. Didn't the supreme court rule this in marketing issues?

I mean I guess the NFL could file a case and try it all the way up the chain to get it decided once and for all it is not a monopoly but I can't see it happening or being successful.

yeah, pretty sure the Govt. ruled that they were a Monopoly just saying it doesn't mean they really are.

i.e. NFL vs. NBA vs. MLB vs. Hollywood vs. Music vs. Broadway are all 1 Entertainment Industry competiting against each other for our dollars like Coke and Pepsi do in the Soft Drink Industry.

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If I was the NFL, I'd take the fact that some NFL Players file on their taxes they are Entertainers and not Pro NFL Football Players as a case in point the NFL is not a Monopoly but rather part of the wider Entertainment industry.

The courts are politicized by 2 very different ideologies though. One wants top down control over everything the other wants more control in the power of individuals with property rights.

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True fans better pray the appellate courts rule in the owners favor, but I think nelson crafted her decision in such a way they won't be able to

Is it not possible that a decision to uphold the lower courts ruling would just lead to negotiations for a CBA that both sides can benefit from. I think a new CBA is going to happen, it is just going to take one side having to fold from the demands they have on the table now and agree to meet in the middle.

Even if the players have all the leverage, it is still in their best interest to have a CBA in place. If not, the teams could give horrible benefits (health coverage, etc.) and there would be no salary floor for the guys that are just trying to make the team.

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disagree with the premise

I suppose an actor can shut the movie studio down if he does not like what they offer him to make a movie?

Screen Actors Guild is the nation’s largest labor union representing working actors. Established in 1933, SAG has a rich history in the American labor movement, from standing up to studios to break long-term engagement contracts in the 1940s to fighting for artists’ rights amid the digital revolution sweeping the entertainment industry in the 21st century. With 20 branches nationwide, SAG represents over 125,000 actors who work in film and digital motion pictures and television programs, commercials, video games, industrials, Internet and all new media formats. The Guild exists to enhance actors’ working conditions, compensation and benefits and to be a powerful, unified voice on behalf of artists’ rights. SAG is a proud affiliate of the AFL-CIO. Headquartered in Los Angeles, you can visit SAG online at SAG.org.

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From what I've read, the 8th circuit court can only overturn her decision if they can show she exceeded her authority in the matter, this is a matter of legal precedent rather than politics and opinion.

I'm not a legal expert by any means, or even close to it, but to me it seems as though she did exceed her authority.

When I read snips of her ruling she sites harm that would be done to fans, the general public ect with the lockout. It's in the publics best interest....

It's my belief that it is not the courts authority to tell a business how it should be run just for the greater good of the public. It should be based on 1 idea is it legal or not for the NFL to lockout their employees...

As much as I like what she said, and it looks out for us, I don't like believe that is the courts place.

But I am whatever with this process so.... No side really has my support... It's a lot of hyprocricy on both sides.....

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/27/players-ask-for-1-billion-bond-if-stay-is-granted/

Well, here it is.

DeSmith has formally asked the courts to force the NFL to "immediately implement a system which does not violate antitrust laws." Parts of the old system that violate antitrust laws: the draft, the salary cap, vetern minimum salarys, restrictions on free agency, ect.

How fitting is it that the news of the death of the draft comes the day before the last draft...

FU DeSmith! RIP NFL...

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/27/players-ask-for-1-billion-bond-if-stay-is-granted/

Well, here it is.

DeSmith has formally asked the courts to force the NFL to "immediately implement a system which does not violate antitrust laws." Parts of the old system that violate antitrust laws: the draft, the salary cap, vetern minimum salarys, restrictions on free agency, ect.

How fitting is it that the news of the death of the draft comes the day before the last draft...

FU DeSmith! RIP NFL...

Blame the Owners

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So can I get an unbiased short version?

I doubt either side wants a lockout. For example, the baseball strike. Afterwards, it was never the same. Baseball was pretty much king before the strike and lost a ton of money because of it.

I don't think the players have a "right" to play but I also don't side with the owners. I just want some football or I will be forced to watch Canadian Curling....

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